User talk:Celia Homeford
Kings of Spain[edit]
I was simply trying to add consistency to to Phillip II, III, and IV article because Phillip IV already had as his name Phillip IV & III so I added that to the other Phillip’s. If you have an issue you with it why don’t change Phillip IV & III? Orson12345 (talk) 14:22, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- You're 6 minutes too late: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philip_IV_of_Spain&diff=prev&oldid=1076320174. Celia Homeford (talk) 14:23, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- There names should include his numerals as King of Spain and as King of Portugal not just Spain. Perhaps we should revert back everything and discuss on article page.Orson12345 (talk) 14:34, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- You're 10 years too late: Talk:Philip II of Spain/Archive 1#Misleading denominations. It was established years ago that "Philip II & I" is a made-up name that should not be used. Celia Homeford (talk) 14:46, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- There names should include his numerals as King of Spain and as King of Portugal not just Spain. Perhaps we should revert back everything and discuss on article page.Orson12345 (talk) 14:34, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Really? You’re going to use as consensus from 10 years ago to justify your edits. Orson12345 (talk) 14:50, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, that is the rule here. Previous consensus holds true and it is the new edit that needs to demonstrate a new consensus not the old one. Celia Homeford (talk) 14:52, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
To correct what I said about Philip IV. His numerals were Philip IV & III for at least a year, so my question is if there was a consensus to not use both numerals why didn’t you or anyone change it till now? Orson12345 (talk) 15:00, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Howdy. I don't doubt your word, but where is the discussion that led to the consensus to 'remove' the Portugal regnal numbers from the Bourbons? That way, I'll know & remember. GoodDay (talk) 21:40, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- I don't know who you're quoting or who wants to remove the Portugal regnal numbers. You should ask whoever that is. Celia Homeford (talk) 09:08, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Try it this way. Why did you revert my changes & to what discussions/consensus were you speaking of in your edit-summaries. GoodDay (talk) 01:30, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
- Please see my edit summaries and above. Celia Homeford (talk) 10:05, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
- Try it this way. Why did you revert my changes & to what discussions/consensus were you speaking of in your edit-summaries. GoodDay (talk) 01:30, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello. Would you point to me the discussion that led to the results for the Hasburg Portugese monarchs? I'm not doubting your word, just don't remember those discussions. GoodDay (talk) 17:12, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
- ↑ Celia Homeford (talk) 09:36, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
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Thank you so much Celia for your continued guardianship of King Sihamoni's page - I've noticed over this past year, you've ensured to look after this page from time to time. It is much appreciated! :) Contributorthewise (talk) 22:56, 6 October 2023 (UTC) |
No intention to "alter" a Blockquote[edit]
I merely committed an honest mistake of using parentheses instead of brackets. But I will let things be with your reversion; although I did find the quote confusing and tried to clarify. Buszmail (talk) 20:10, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Prince William Frederick, Duke of Gloucester and Edinburgh[edit]
Hi Celia, thanks for your edits on my addition to The Duke's page regarding his clandestine marriage to Ann Maguire. You commented that you could not find the citation in the material. The documents containing the detail are held at the London Metropolitan Archive (I deposited them there myself last week) under the reference "Uncatalogued B23/103 RECORDS of ANTHONY CROSBY". I referenced this at the start of the paragraph and provided additional supporting references to Anthony Camp's publications. How can I better reference the deleted material to ensure it can be found? Thanks Graham Young Ee87gsy (talk) 11:56, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- I was referring to the citation I removed, not the archives or Camp. Celia Homeford (talk) 12:32, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- Indeed the citation for Old Bracknell House is just referencing a picture of the house. I am happy for this to be removed. However, the detail about The Duke providing the residence at Old Bracknell, Maguire's claims and Crosby's letters are in the LMA archive. So perhaps I should remove the Old Bracknell reference and provided a further reference at the end of the paragraph to the LMA? (I have documented much more detail about Ann Maguire and the Duke on Crosby's wikipedia page). Ee87gsy (talk) 13:12, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
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House of Glücksburg[edit]
Dear Celia, a problem ocurred at the article: House of Glücksburg, where i edited the following:
"While the official royal house of Denmark remains the House of Glücksburg although the current Danish king is a patrilineal member of the House of Monpezat, it is the other way round in the United Kingdom, whose current king is a patrilineal member of the House of Glücksburg, while the official royal house is the House of Windsor, which emerged from the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha."
I think you deleted all of that. The whole content of the above text is, however, already proven. The official royal house of Denmark remains the House of Glücksburg, this can be read on all official publications of the royal house.
If you took a closer look at the page House of Glücksburg, you will notice that there is much confusion about who now belongs to the house and who not, and it is therefore necessary to explain the situation about the kings of Denmark and of the UK in the lede. Otherwise, the insertion and deletion of those two kings will go on for ages. Krokusblum4 (talk) 13:24, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- I haven't seen those publications. You will need to provide them. All content on wikipedia should be cited. Celia Homeford (talk) 14:23, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- I think, you are one of the driving forces to push the deletion of the House of Glücksburg from the Danish king's page, and probably you are also one of the voices impeding the insertion of the Glücksburg/Windsor info. It's because of people like you, that there is ongoing confusion as to who belongs to which house. You seem to write about nobility all the time, but yet you claim not being able to find suitable sources. Now there is a page about a king without a house. For sure, it can't stay like that for long. Aside from that, the Danish article still states House of Glücksburg. Krokusblum4 (talk) 14:49, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Er, no. All you have to do to add the material is provide suitable sources. Celia Homeford (talk) 14:55, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- I think, you are one of the driving forces to push the deletion of the House of Glücksburg from the Danish king's page, and probably you are also one of the voices impeding the insertion of the Glücksburg/Windsor info. It's because of people like you, that there is ongoing confusion as to who belongs to which house. You seem to write about nobility all the time, but yet you claim not being able to find suitable sources. Now there is a page about a king without a house. For sure, it can't stay like that for long. Aside from that, the Danish article still states House of Glücksburg. Krokusblum4 (talk) 14:49, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Coronation medal citations[edit]
Hello Celia Homeford
As always, thanks for your superb oversight of Wiki pages concerning royalty & related matters.
A slight conundrum as how to cite Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh's award of the King Charles III Coronation Medal - and likewise for the vast majority of its recipients (going forward)...
Might a picture of her wearing it suffice or perhaps more official would be citing HM Govt's published eligiblity criteria for receipt of this Coronation Medal? (with which she clearly complies, viz. military appointments) qv. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/64cb653b2322ce000dcd23b7/Coronation_Medal_eligibility_criteria.docx.
What do you think? because, as recently mentioned to DrKay, no official gazette or other comprehensive authorative source exists for such awards (Jubilee/Coronation/etc) given that so many (3,000+) are issued.
To me, "citation needed" on Wiki implies some doubt as to veracity, whereas there clearly is none here.
Looking forward to hearing - many thanks.
Best Primm1234 (talk) 15:58, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- If she's clearly wearing it, that's good enough for me. When you refer to the eligibility criteria, I presume you mean category 13 of Annex A? That's the only potential category for her as far as I can make out. Celia Homeford (talk) 16:06, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Celia Homeford
- Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh, complies under 8.A of these regulations but, on a wider issue, what about other recipients who appear in Wiki?
- Many thanks & shall I go ahead by updating her article accordingly?
- Best Primm1234 (talk) 16:30, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- I can see how she can meet Annex A, category 13 (b). I don't see that she meets 8A. For that, there must be an "active contribution" ... "attendance at an event, i.e. as a guest, does not in itself qualify for the medal". Celia Homeford (talk) 08:11, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Eleanor of Aquitaine[edit]
Can you please explain why you removed the internal link to Eleanor of Aquitaine's family tree, which I am in the process of building. The interrelationships of French and English nobility of the time is so complicated, it requires a clear genealogy to make sense of it, rather than just a textual description. I am intending to revert your edit. Michael Goodyear ✐ ✉ 22:39, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- I see no reason to using a farcically archaic and absurd term like 'Acscendants' when all other articles on royalty use the usual and idiomatic 'Ancestry'. Article consistency should be maintained. Nor do I see any reason to depart from the project-wide consensus to use sentence case for sub-headings. 'Family tree' should be written in sentence case, as mandated by the Manual of Style. Also, per policy, edits that are undone should be discussed and not reimposed unilaterally by a single editor against project-wide consensus. Celia Homeford (talk) 08:16, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Tudor relevancy[edit]
Should I not have added the tudors to the template? My original purpose of the template was to show the basic transition from Stuart to Hanover. Sophia is clearly the key, there. Then I added the Tudors because it looked more like a simple 1→2→3 flowchart, but the "1" (tudors) was missing. —GoldRingChip 12:49, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see how the Tudors are relevant to the Hanoverians, or vice versa. There's a hundred years between them. I can see why such links are shown on arching articles like a family tree of all English monarchs, but that's not appropriate for a biography of an individual where family trees should show relationships relevant to the article subject's life. Celia Homeford (talk) 13:02, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- That is fine. I have now removed the Tudors. —GoldRingChip 13:33, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
First barnstar[edit]
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for this I must give you my first ever barnstar; we do not always agree, but here I could not agree more. SergeWoodzing (talk) 14:17, 12 March 2024 (UTC) |