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Poor defaults[edit]

This template apparently defaults to add several categories (Food and drink articles needing attention to referencing and citation, Food and drink articles needing attention to coverage and accuracy, Food and drink articles needing attention to structure, Food and drink articles needing attention to grammar, Food and drink articles needing attention to supporting materials, Food and drink articles needing attention to accessibility) unless they are turned off ("=no"), which seems very unhelpful to me. This automatically mis-categorizes hundreds of articles that have no such problems, rendering those categories useless for identifying the ones that do. These categories should remain off by default, unless someone identifies an actual problem that needs attention and adds "=yes". -Jason A. Quest (talk) 14:00, 26 March 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

regardless of whether future problems will be created, what about the (estimated) 15,000 Talk pages that, from a 2008 bot-created mis-tagging,

is still unfixed? (see 2008 hangover: six tags, 15,000 cases : below) Pi314m (talk) 13:38, 25 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

2008 hangover: six tags, 15,000 cases[edit]

The talk pages of aproximately 15,000 articles have the following category tags:

Food and drink articles needing attention to referencing and citation
Food and drink articles needing attention to coverage and accuracy
Food and drink articles needing attention to structure
Food and drink articles needing attention to grammar
Food and drink articles needing attention to supporting materials
Food and drink articles needing attention to accessibility

The problem has gone to HelpDesk, which sent it to BOTREQ, which sent it here, the project talk page. Now what - is there consensus that it's time to fix this, as good citizens, so that those tags mean something, after those places having all six together are fixed? Pi314m (talk) 13:38, 25 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Pi314m: This isn't the project talk page, which is at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Food and drink. You should really link back to the places where you've already posted about this, such as Wikipedia:Bot requests#Find all six tags and remove all six of them - otherwise, people are going to call WP:MULTI or WP:FORUMSHOP, something like that. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:27, 25 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Anyway, it's much easier to understand what you are talking about if you use a template link the category, you can use {{cl}} or {{clc}} - the latter shows the page counts, as follows:

As for why there are so many pages in all of these categories - it's because they have not been assessed against the B-Class checklist. Go to any page in the category, locate the WikiProject Food and drink banner, in that you should see a line saying "This article has not yet been checked against the criteria for B-Class status:" - to the right of that there is a "[show]" link - click that. For example, to get a page out of Category:Food and drink articles needing attention to referencing and citation, you would need to add |b1=yes to the {{WikiProject Food and drink}}. See for example Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Food and drink/Archive 16#Question concerning checking an article (History of the hamburger) against B-class criteria.

Relevant edits include:

01:59, 12 November 2009 by Jerem43 (talk · contribs), which first added the B-class checklist, criteria 1 to 5 only
03:48, 1 March 2010 by Jerem43 (talk · contribs), which added criterion 6
19:27, 30 April 2010 by WOSlinker (talk · contribs), which put it into {{WPBannerMeta/hooks/bchecklist}} for extra flexibility
21:56, 21 September 2012 by Jj98 (talk · contribs), which set the category names given above

No bot was involved, and it certainly didn't happen "back in 2008": once the WikiProject banner was so modified in 2009-12, the categories populated automatically. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:28, 25 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I just noticed (at Talk:Manny's Deli that the lack of an assessment for the B-Class requirements populates an article into these six categories, regardless of whether it deserves to be there. We already have Category:Food and drink articles with incomplete B-Class checklists, which should adequately cover the non-assessed articles. Category:Food and drink articles needing attention to referencing and citation and similar categories should be reserved for those articles where a reviewer has indicated that there is a problem. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:16, 3 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]