Template talk:Sovereign states of Europe

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Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2015[edit]

Put the dependencies of Portugal (Madiera and the Azores), Spain (Canary Islands) (talk) 19:08, 9 October 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Not done Madiera and the Azores are not dependencies, but Autonomous Regions of Portugal
The Canaries are just one of the 17 Autonomous communities of Spain - Arjayay (talk) 20:31, 9 October 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Additionally, neither Madeira nor the Canaries are geographically close to Europe (they're just to the west of the African mainland). SiBr4 (talk) 20:38, 9 October 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Israel shares many cultural links with Europe. Should it be included on this template?Grootwoord (talk) 20:52, 8 December 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This template isn't about country's with cultural links, it's about physically being a part of the continent. - SantiLak (talk) 03:04, 9 December 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Not according to the template it's not, as it specifically includes countries "entirely in Asia with cultural links to Europe". Armenia, Cyprus, and possibly Malta are not geologically within Europe. --Golbez (talk) 05:56, 9 December 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And the only one that isn't geologically in Europe per se is Armenia, is very close to the border of that is considered geologically Europe. My opinion is that Israel shouldn't be included. - SantiLak (talk) 18:08, 9 December 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I dunno, including Armenia really seems to open the door to Israel. Of course, to do so would require some healthy corroboration from articles like Europe, so the discussion really belongs there, not here. --Golbez (talk) 19:19, 9 December 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Akrotiri and Dhekelia[edit]

Beside the name of the base there is the description (sovereign base areas). They are both links and both direct to the same page. In the other cases the description directs to the 'type' of territory. Since apparently there are no pages about sovereign military bases, that don't redirect to Akrotiri and Dhekelia, I guess this comment should not be a link. It could even become a footnote, but that might end up being problematic. Pqnlrn (talk) 11:02, 14 February 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've removed the link from the parenthetical description. YBG (talk) 22:46, 14 February 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]

partially in other continents[edit]

Someone just added Spain to "partially in Africa". While this is true, it opens a bit of a can of worms. Do we have to add three footnotes, or a single long footnote, for France, which exists in three other continents? (South America, North America, Africa) We'd also have to do it for Italy, which has African islands. Or should we prune back what is considered 'part of other continents', remove Greece as being partially in Asia, and specify that it's only for those that cross the Ural barrier and/or are culturally linked to Europe (so basically, some of the post-Soviet states). But right now, with only Spain and the Asian holdings spelled out, it's omitting the other transcontinental nations of France, Italy, and possibly Denmark. Or, we simply remove the footnotes altogether, and allow the article to illuminate the nuances. --Golbez (talk) 15:51, 20 June 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Kosovo should be removed from the "Sovereign states" section of the template. It is a country of limited recognition, not a fully recognized one. 2601:407:4100:87A0:4D62:9BF8:2BEF:4D3A (talk) 16:07, 15 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 18 October 2019[edit]

I would like to remove Kosovo from the "Sovereign states" section of the template. It is not a member of the United Nations. 2601:407:4100:87A0:7420:9C04:226C:F6C2 (talk) 23:11, 18 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Are you sure this is the right template? This one is about sovereign states in Europe and not about whether or not the nation is a member of the United Nations. Sakura CarteletTalk 17:05, 19 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
IP is correct. Kosovo is already listed as a state with limited recognition. The most sensible way to draw the line between the two sections here (and it's a line that must be drawn for NPOV) is to copy List of sovereign states, which uses UN status. Kahastok talk 17:17, 19 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
(To be clear, the discussion that led to that split was long and detailed, and this criterion was chosen not because it was perfect but because it was as good as you were ever going to get in the real world.) Kahastok talk 17:19, 19 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]