Template talk:Infobox UK place

Proposed county infobox template change

A discussion is ongoing at Template talk:Infobox English county#Proposal: remove the ethnicity section which has echoes of the decision to create {{Infobox UK place}}. That discarded many of the parameters in {{infobox settlement}}, notably ethnicity. Editors of this (UK place) infobox would be most welcome to use their experiences of that decision here to contribute to the debate. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 13:37, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Edit request

The population_ref section mentions a website under http://neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/ that should be used to check statistics. This website is no longer online, so I request that it should be removed or replaced by an alternative if possible

- Nintentoad125 (talk) 16:59, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Done, please check. Regs, The Equalizer (talk) 18:25, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

2 questions and an observation

• Should a "combined authority" field be added between county and local authority?
• Can the word area be added after authority on unitary authorities and my proposed combined authority field, since the link goes to the area that an authority covers not the authority itself?
• The template code has a thing with mobile app infoboxes where list of places at the bottom of the infobox seems to have no wrap making the infobox scrollable left-right for something that doesn’t need to be (for an example search somewhere in County Durham on the app) but the mobile site seems to not have the issue (with Durham wrapping onto the second line). I suggest " List of places:" line break " UK • … • …".

Chocolateediter (talk) 13:21, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

The area has been removed on some articles as not been a natural term supported in reliable sources so would not support adding to infobox. Keith D (talk) 00:25, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

What about devolved region Chocolateediter (talk) 17:09, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Other names

Currently, this template only has local name and [other] language name. Can an other name parameter be added, so alternative (sometimes older or shorter) names, that still have some official use, be added? It can be restricted to recognised other names, and not nicknames, if those concerns were raised in the past. Like allowing Aberdovey at Aberdyfi's infobox rather than the current manual {{small}} formatting? As Aberdovey is neither "local" nor "Welsh", but is still used probably enough to be in the infobox IMO?

If there was a older discussion similar to this, apologies. DankJae 22:01, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

I'd argue using multiple names and sizes in the one field as with the Aberdyfi example is perfectly valid.

Use multiple names in those fields, it might not be 'local' but the field name is basically an alternative names field, so

 | local_name = Aberdovey2, Aberdovey3, Aberdovey4 

or

 | local_name = Aberdovey2 {{br}} Aberdovey3 {{br]} Aberdovey4  

or

 | local_name = {{unbulleted list|Aberdovey2| Aberdovey3 |Aberdovey4}}  

and is small typeface, use a comma or {{br}} linebreak or other templates to separate multiple names, the field doesn't need to contain one placename only

The following is used with a link to a webpage, also small typeface, combine these to explicitly call out that it's a localised spelling, so

| other_language = <auto link to lang article> | other_language_name = <place1>, <place2> 

so

| other_language = Cornish language | other_language_name = Aberdovey2 {{br}} Aberdovey3 

or

| other_language = Cornish language | other_language_name = {{unbulleted list|Aberdovey2| Aberdovey3 }}  

The Equalizer (talk) 19:32, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

@The Equalizer Ah ok, only mentioned the text size as per MOS:SMALL they should be avoided, and seen them removed from other infoboxes. Would prefer it is renamed to "other name" from "local name" then, but understand that doing all that work would be for little benefit. Could it being used also for alternative names be added to the documentation (TemplateData) though? DankJae 09:02, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Ah, that MOS advice I wasn't aware of so thanks. Renaming the local_name field would however affect existing parameter use in articles. Might be better as you say to state in the doc that it can be used for alternative names? That can be adjusted. The Equalizer (talk) 15:30, 11 April 2024 (UTC)