Talk:West Bank

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Hannibal delendus est[edit]

An edit summary of a word or two vaunting the fixing of some unidentified POV has no value unless that POV is self-evident

'[Mediterranean Sea|Mediterranean]] in the Levant region of Western Asia that forms the main bulk of the Palestinian territories.'

was deleted. It is sourced to the CIA handbook, which rightly states it as a fact, - the WB is larger than Gaza) ergo not a POV, except to editors who wish to challenge the fact that the West bankl as legally defined is a Palestinian fiction since it has not been absorbed largely by Israeli carpetbagging. If that is RH's 'rationale' i.e., POV it has no place here in contradicting a fact.

Asking another editor to address the talk page to explain changes, when the eraser hasn't troubled themselves to justify their expunging of facts is laughable. Nishidani (talk) 07:38, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The west bank is now under de facto and je jure israeli annexation[edit]

this should be updated Monochromemelo1 (talk) 23:47, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Explain with sources, what it is that you mean, please. Selfstudier (talk) 11:30, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The area C of the West Bank has been transferred from military control to civilian control and loosened regulations making settlement expansion easier. Israeli civilian law is now implemented Israeli settlements under the settler administration. https://fmep.org/blog/resourcecat/fmep-settlement-report/ https://peacenow.org.il/en/annexation-under-the-radar-the-establishment-of-the-settlements-administration-under-minister-bezalel-smotrich-report Monochromemelo1 (talk) 18:39, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich takes charge of most of the Civil Administration, obtaining broad authority over civilian issues in the West Bank. Israeli peace groups condemned the move as de jure annexation of occupied territories.[1][2] Rights lawyer Michael Sfard tweeted that the action "entails de jure annexation of the West Bank".[3][4]
This is what you would like to cover? Might it not be better to update Israeli occupation of the West Bank at least in the first instance? Selfstudier (talk) 18:54, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh okay Monochromemelo1 (talk) 19:05, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also see Thirty-seventh government of Israel and the PalestiniansSelfstudier (talk) 16:54, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Sharon, Jeremy (23 February 2023). "Smotrich handed sweeping powers over West Bank, control over settlement planning". The Times of Israel. Retrieved 28 March 2023.
  2. ^ McGreal, Chris (24 February 2023). "Former US ambassador accuses Israel of 'creeping annexation' of the West Bank". The Guardian.
  3. ^ @sfardm (February 23, 2023). "Today the government of Israel has taken an action which entails de jure annexation of the West Bank" (Tweet) – via Twitter.
  4. ^ "Jimmy Carter's warning: Without peace, Israel must face 'apartheid'". WAPO.

Small grammar error[edit]

Crossing Points section, in the 2nd sentence: "...is controlled by...", would be improved written as, "... has been controlled by". Thank you! MxBuster (talk) 11:31, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rephrasing a sentence[edit]

Rephrase the following line from:

"It has an estimated population of 2,747,943 Palestinians, and over 670,000 Israeli settlers live in the West Bank, of which approximately 220,000 live in East Jerusalem."

to:

"It has an estimated population of 2,747,943 Palestinians and 670,000 Israeli settlers. Approximately 220,000 of these settlers live in East Jerusalem."

---Side Note: if you are able, check the two sources cited, I don't see those exact figures in either of the sources. These numbers may need to be updated. Agent4911 (talk) 21:44, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Andumé (talk) 04:49, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The history section is messy[edit]

I'm trying to make sense from the history section, as it seems messy. Lots of things are repeated, and it has a huge section about economy, while the historical situation is absent or repeated in all the subheadings. I'm not competent enough in this topic to summarize or to move the economy data to another section, but I think it should be done. Theklan (talk) 09:17, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to find out what life was like before the Jordanian annexation. Things such as "who lived in what is now the West Bank?" "Were there Jews there in the recent (post 1800) past?" "Has it always been farmland?"
There is little about this SPECIFIC area, with almost all of it dealing with the post British Mandate period. It's actually very odd - lots of information about everywhere else, even the "east bank". Therealex (talk) 18:17, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Considered illegal under international law"[edit]

Under Israeli occupation, which is considered illegal under international law[1]

The source for this line in the infobox is from 1990, which cannot account for 30+ years of development. A more contemporary source is needed to confirm this status as of 2024. –Zfish118talk 12:15, 23 January 2024 (UTC) –Zfish118talk 12:15, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This has been on my todo list for a while, please allow some time and I will update (and slightly correct) this. Unless someone wants to do it first. Selfstudier (talk) 12:24, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Roberts, Adam (1990). "Prolonged Military Occupation: The Israeli-Occupied Territories Since 1967" (PDF). The American Journal of International Law. 84 (1): 85–86. doi:10.2307/2203016. JSTOR 2203016. S2CID 145514740. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2020-02-15. The international community has taken a critical view of both deportations and settlements as being contrary to international law. General Assembly resolutions have condemned the deportations since 1969, and have done so by overwhelming majorities in recent years. Likewise, they have consistently deplored the establishment of settlements, and have done so by overwhelming majorities throughout the period (since the end of 1976) of the rapid expansion in their numbers. The Security Council has also been critical of deportations and settlements; and other bodies have viewed them as an obstacle to peace, and illegal under international law... Although East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights have been brought directly under Israeli law, by acts that amount to annexation, both of these areas continue to be viewed by the international community as occupied, and their status as regards the applicability of international rules is in most respects identical to that of the West Bank and Gaza.