Talk:University of Illinois clout scandal

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Chronological order?[edit]

I think that instead of organizing the content of this article by the current method, we should present the information in chronological order. This would change the flow of the article and allow us to edit the article more easily when more information comes up. Any thoughts?--Edge3 (talk) 01:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rename[edit]

I think the current title is overly informal (clout is a colloquial word for influence), and prejudges the issue. At Wikipedia, we should present the facts and allow the reader to decide. I propose the title University of Illinois admissions review. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 09:35, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point. But it was a scandal, and the term "clout" captures the essential driver of the scandal, and this jargon is intimently associated with this case. The proposed "University of Illinois admissions review" seems like belabored PC-speak that obscures the essence of the topic. Thus, the proposed rename would interfere with the accessibility and usefulness of the article to our readers.--130.126.229.2 (talk) 13:46, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Any alternative suggestions? I don't mind the word scandal too much, though I think it exaggerates the importance of the issue. But I am strongly opposed to colloquialisms such as clout, partly because they make Wikipedia less accessible to those whose first language is not English. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 13:57, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I second the other contributer and also prefer "clout" because that was the term first used in the case-breaking story in the Tribune and the word used heavily in the subsequent media. That being said, the "University of Illinois Admissions Scandal" would be acceptable. Cheerio. HoundofBaskersville (talk) 03:08, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I could go with "University of Illinois Admissions Scandal", but am quite opposed to "University of Illinois admissions review". A Wikipedia article is overdue on Niranjan Shah, who was somewhat central to this scandal as he chaired the board that oversaw the entire business and he was shaking down the institution.--130.126.229.2 (talk) 17:31, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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