Talk:Total liberation

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I am being WP:BOLD and adding a talk page here with a wikiproject banner. (sdsds - talk) 03:42, 5 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Merger proposal[edit]

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To merge Anarchism and animal rights into Total liberation given the overlap; short text, context and overlap; merge to the broader topic; some disagreement over the final page title which can be subsequently discussed. Klbrain (talk) 11:43, 16 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm proposing we merge Anarchism and animal rights into Total liberation as they appear to be, more or less, about the exact same thing. Having cut away the fluff and poorly-sourced content from the former article, all that's left is pretty much just the lead (sourced to Encarta) and a section on veganarchism which is entirely sourced to a pamphlet which appears to be the primary source that coined the term. The latter article is largely better sourced than the former, while also citing the two principle sources that still make up the former article.

If these two articles are merged, it will be a lot easier to vet for reliability and improve the combined content. --Grnrchst (talk) 20:21, 21 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Support although I'll be curious how much coverage there is on "total liberation" as a topic apart from the sources that invoke it as a slogan czar 23:53, 21 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Would the plan be to then redirect Anarchism and animal rights to this article? Mostly I'm wondering about whether there might be discoverability concerns with Total liberation, the meaning of which is only obvious to people who already know what it is, vs Anarchism and animal rights, which is much more straightforward. But neither article has a strong lead over the other in page views, so possibly moot. -- asilvering (talk) 06:31, 17 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Support merge as initially proposed. I see Asilvering's point about discoverability, but its also advisable to go with the published sources, most of which have liberation as a key element of the title. So, I marginally prefer Total liberation, which also more accurately encompasses both animal and human liberation. Klbrain (talk) 13:43, 12 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Thinking about this some more, I wonder if the best title wouldn't be "anarchism and animal liberation". "Total liberation" implies both earth and animal liberation, so unless sources commonly cover both together, I think they are separate topics. I.e., we would cover anarchism's relationship with animal liberation (which appears to be the common name) and environmentalism separately within a combined "total liberation" article anyway, so is "total liberation" any more than a definitional synthesis of the two? czar 14:39, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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