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Should a new timeline section be created to reflect the fact the 2023 counteroffensive failed? Looking for a consensus.[edit]
Both Ukrainian leaders and Western analysts & media have widely stated that the 2023 Ukrainian counteroffensive failed in its objectives, and that the war is currently in a stalemate. The main page (Russian invasion of Ukraine) has a new section called 2023-2024 Winter stalemate (1 December 2023 – present).
Should a new timeline section be created, starting in say December 2023 or even January 2024, to reflect the fact the war is in a stalemate?JohnAdams1800 (talk) 17:37, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agree.
The ZSU has retreated to more defensible positions, more than half a kilometer in the Rabotyne salient, the location of their counterattack this spring. Along with widespread reporting from credible western media and statements from the east (both from the Russian MoD and Zelensky) I feel like the conclusion is quite obvious. There is no shame in making this conclusion here, the focus has clearly shifted to Russian offensive operations along the front. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-december-27-2023167.98.138.19 (talk) 21:37, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 January 2024[edit]
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In the box at the top please change:
Second winter campaign
to something more like:
Third stalemate
or
2023-2024 winter stalemate
or
Winter stalemate
Because "Second winter campaign" is confusingly the title of an article related to Ukraine, but about a long-ago event. When the description "Second winter campaign" was added a few days ago I remembered that as the title of the new split article. So, when I wanted to find the latest section of the timeline during my next visit to Wikipedia I searched for that phrase. I arrived at the article with the title "Second winter campaign" and was very confused for a bit because it has little to do with current events, but does concern a war in Ukraine. Uhoj (talk) 18:24, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This article should summarize the war. I go to the most recent sub article, and it's just day by day, no high level summary. Benjamin (talk) 22:44, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]