Talk:Socotra

Dvipa Sukhadhara

@SharabSalam and other editors, I now see that the Dvipa Sukhadhara information has been added and reverted numerous times during the past few months; I was not aware of this when I added the information (which appeared to me to be well sourced) back in, and it was not my intention to step into an ongoing editing war. I now have read the reasons given by the various editors who have deleted such addition, but still am unclear about why the sources for the information are deemed to be unacceptable. Is the origin of Socotra's population the subject of an ongoing ethnopolitical conflict between (generally speaking) Arabs and Indians, with the sources used to support the edit akin to political advocacy rather than historical information? (I'm afraid that I have read a lot more about Socotra's geography than its history or population, so this is an honest question on my part.) If that is the case, then I can understand the insistence that such information not be presented as if it were factual and unambiguous, but wouldn't it be better to include both the Mainland India and Arabian Peninsula theories of the origin of the Island's population? Unless the sources provided by the editor who initially added the Dvipa Sukhadhara information express a WP:FRINGE POV (of which the classic example is "Flat-Earth Theory"), I think that providing both theories would be the most NPOV option. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 13:30, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

@AuH2ORepublican: I mean if you have reliable sources you can add them here(in the talk page) while you are talking. And if you are interested most of soqotrian people are genetically related to South Arabian people(Qahtanite) J1 whether in Eriteria or in south Arabia and some has unique lineages (R0a1a1 subclade) that has not been detected in any other people and also some has african lineages. Also they speak a "semitic" language that some find the most related to the mother language of semitic languages plus there is almost no relationship between indian languages and Socatri language. However, I will take notes on your "theory" and do a research about it although I find it unlikely to be true. Also many people dont understand what the term Sukhadhara and it should not be in the head of the section. plus the edit is a copy-paste from Quora. --SharabSalam (talk) 18:08, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

@SharabSalam, I am not the person who found the sources and made the edit, so I don't have any "other sources" to add. I do think, however, that, at the very least, (i) "A History of Christianity in Asia" by Samuel Hugh Moffett, (ii) "Socotra: The Mysterious Island of the Assyrian Church of the East" by Stephen Andrew Missick, (iii) "A History of Christianity in India: The Beginnings to AD 1707" by Stephen Neill, and (iv) the report by Dr. Ingo Strauch (Research assistant for Indology, Freie Universität Berlin) on his findings at Hoq Cave are reliable sources. As I wrote before, wouldn't it be better if this theory (which, again, is not mine) was presented alongside the theory involving Arab ancestry of Socotrans? Of course, as I also wrote before, if the Indian-ancestry theory is a WP: FRINGE theory then, of course, it should not be included. It just seems to me that those sources aren't fringy, so the theory wouldn't be, either--unless the sources have been badly misinterpreted by the poster, of course. This really is a subject about which I know very little, but I always err on the side of providing more historical information rather than less. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 20:19, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

The article mentions that most of the inscription found in the Island are in Brahmi. How true is that? And also the current source for sukhadhara etymology is from Sanjeev Sanyal’s popular history book. ChandlerMinh (talk) 08:32, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

But HOW and WHY did Yemen take over Socotra in 1967?

In the History section of the article, the timeline goes from 1876 directly to 1967. And there is absolutely no mention or talk of how Yemen got involved in the island of Socotra. It says only:

"In October 1967, in the wake of the departure of the British from Aden and southern Arabia, the Mahra Sultanate as well as the other states of the former Aden Protectorate were abolished. On 30 November of the same year, Socotra became part of South Yemen."

Nothing else. Something is very obviously being left out. What legal premise did Yemen use to take control of the island, and why? There MUST be more to this story. Bzzzing (talk) 18:01, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

The Island was controlled by the Mehri tribes of Yemen Abo Yemen✉ 07:06, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

It was made a part of the British Protectorate of Aden, thus it's history was intertwined with the protectorate until the independence of the protectorate in 1967 as South Yemen. Clearly nothing significant happened during this period on the island that did not also affect the Aden Protectorate as a whole, which is why there is no information written here during the interim period. - Wiz9999 (talk) 20:48, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Native Socotri language name

the socotri name of this island is Saqatri (Socotri: ساقطري) but instead the name given is the name of the island in socotri arabic (not the socotri language itself). Abo Yemen✉ 07:09, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Blue Baboon Tarantula

This endemic spider is the only tarantula species living in communities (Wiki of the spider: A unique behavior of this tarantula is that it is communal, to the point that mother spiders care for the young, even attacking potential predators if they get too close to her egg sac.)

please add 2003:C1:1F0E:9200:D973:BDF1:ECE7:D7E1 (talk) 12:31, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

flag

@DeCausa why do you say that this source is not reliable? Abo Yemen✉ 19:41, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Essentially anyone can post info to it including non-experts (It even cites Wikipedia!). See WP:USERGENERATED. It has been discussed at WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard and consensus is it is not WP:RS. Last discussion is here. DeCausa (talk) 19:58, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

I didn't know that anyone can post anything on that site. BUT, all of the flags posted there seems to be accurate and some flags like the Qu'aiti flag and the sultan's standard is the same one that is shown in the Mukalla Museum (formerly Quaiti sultan's palace). Anyways thanks for pointing that out. Abo Yemen✉ 06:40, 4 October 2023 (UTC)