Talk:Self-censorship

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Psychological issues[edit]

This article is excellent, but it covers self censorship purely as a "rights" or political issue, ignoring the psychological issue of self censorship, or failure to self-censor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.84.129 (talk) 12:47, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV Dispute[edit]

I have attached the minor NPOV tag until the lines below are corrected to remove the present bias. This has been talked about at length in this discussion, and nothing has yet been done. "For instance, in the USA, media organisations (Media Matters for America, FAIR, Democracy Now!, ACLU) have raised concerns about the extent of the phenomenon in particular medias (notably FOX News) since the beginning of the "War against Terror"."

You are welcome to suggest a better version, or state precisely what is wrong with this one. At present, this is not very helpful. Rama 14:38, 29 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]


re: npov[edit]

To me, the article begins directly without a NPOV. I attempted to rewrite an intro but ran out of time today, so I'm posting it here for another to use.

Self-censorship occurs when a person or entity changes their thoughts or output to coincide with those of another party. It may be practised willfully, viewed as a required method of gaining acceptance or otherwise achieving a goal. However, the term is usually employed to express when the practicioner is unaware of the process, or. In this sense, self-censorship is practised by anyone who tries to fit in or assimilate to a group.

It is important to differentiate the more common view of self-censorship with the much maligned view which occurs in a professional context. The difference being, arguably, the effect of the censorship on society as a whole. Professionals with an obligation to present fair and accurate aaron 22:37, 5 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

someone trying to be politically correct here?[edit]

the guy who flagged the article as biased is biased himself. he is trying to pursue typical political correctness that ruined free speech in many cases and is self censorship at its best.

Hopefully this article stays as it is, because it describes very exactly what self censorship is.

based on the examples from Japan and other countries incl. US, it is clear that self censorship exists in top medias.

--85.216.133.254 14:10, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Article is biased towards negative self-censorship[edit]

I've always considered one of the more positive forms of "self-censorship" to be a simple tactful choice. Included under this would be: the choice to refuse to speak about a touchy subject in the presence of sensitive company, such as an honest opinion of someone deceased to avoid stress to the bereaved, or the choice to refuse to reiterate an already broached subject to avoid unnecessary filibustering, or the diplomatic choice to hold off on discussion of a sensitive topic until a more appropriate time, or the choice simply to not add to the chatter in a noisy environment. Perhaps this is not a neutral point-of-view, but is there really such a thing concerning the topic of censorship? --gnomelock 06:15, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Along these lines, there should be some discussion of "standards and practices" departments in media organizations. MisfitToys 20:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think there is bias in the first few paragraphs of the article. Since it talks about widely undesirable forms of Self-Censorship. And is not until later in the article that desirable forms of Self-Censorship are mentioned. Also the mention of fear as a motivator is negatively biased. This is understandable since people are drawn to the negative aspects of social life, but it does need to be corrected.


Examples of socially-desirable self-censorship are:
+ Blurring credit card numbers in photographs to prevent fraud, or crossing out telephone numbers to protect people from personal attacks.
+ Withholding details on criminal investigations that would otherwise help criminals avoid justice. Since investigations commonly involve government, the honesty in this kind of self-censorship can be controversial. But the principle itself is understood and in my opinion generally accepted.
+ Not publishing crucial details of tests or competitions could also be considered positive self-censorship since they could render the results invalid or meaningless.
I just don't have a reference on the subject and It would be great to have one. If anybody can think of one please write it here.--Dela Rabadilla (talk) 03:15, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But in encouraging democracy we are trying encouraging free speech, even though we might not agree with what everyone says. Unfortunately even the Nazis, as well people who are like Jim Carey, Sasha Baron Cohen (Borat, etc), fire and brimstone types, people listening to violent music, swearing - noisy people are allowed, but this is because the priority is on freedom of speech- which is the freedom from which all other freedoms are derived. Speech is allowed. What some people say is can be very unpopular, obnoxious or even wrong, but it is not accepted but is permitted. If you outlaw what one person says you outlaw them all. Civil Liberties is kind of like supporting crazy anarchy, but this is what freedom of speech is.The Internet is good for freedom of speech and so are places like speaker's corner in England or the rude streets of NY. The price paid I guess is politeness and good taste which is less important than the idea of freedom of speech in a democratic society (or one that is trying to be). There are cases of socially desirable self censorship, and they exist, but these are usually kept down to the necessary minimum. Really what people in a democracy don't tolerate is conformity even though some people are really square and dont understand democracy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.171.193.241 (talk) 11:29, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reuters[edit]

Regarding this : Reuters is not accused to censoring its reports. It does give the information it has. Whether they choose to abide to a particular standard of wording has nothing to do with censorship, and particularly, the fact that neo-conservatives shoudl brandish the term "censorship" does to suffice to make it so. Rama 15:00, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Socially Acceptable Self-Censorship[edit]

[Hey, this section was blank when I found it...]

Self-Censorship in Audiences[edit]

Sometimes self-censorship is practiced by the intended audience of works; i.e., sometimes people refuse to read a certain book or watch a certain movie, out of some deference to authority, even though no force or pressure is present. I think the main article ought to mention this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.129.31.156 (talk) 04:48, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A good example of self-censorship[edit]

I notice this article discussed the concept of self-censorship, but doesn't include many specific examples. Well, here's one: in 1972, Stanley Kubrick withdrew his film A Clockwork Orange from distribution in the United Kingdom due to the controversy it had generated, and real life crimes it had allegedly inspired. It didn't become available again until after his death. I'd add that to the article myself, but I'm not sure what category it fits in. Robofish (talk) 23:12, 22 May 2010 (UTC)5.80.73.136 (talk) 09:35, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

5.80.73.136 (talk) 09:35, 2 December 2015 (UTC)as someone who is British I wouldn't call that an example of 'good censorship', I still remember watching the film at the age of 13 the only reason why I watched it so young was because that was the first time in Britain was shown back in 2001, I haven't gone on to murder or rape anyone even though I was at the prime age to be influenced by it. Also the idea that there were copycat killers is a myth, British tabloids were crying Clockwork Orange crimes before the movie was even released (before it was pulled), the hysteria surrounding this movie is no different that the hysteria surrounding natural born killers which was denied a rating by the bbfc for months while they went through every crime supposedly inspired by the movie.5.80.73.136 (talk) 09:35, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Use of the term "river crabbing"[edit]

In the section Reasons for self-censorship- Legal, the term "rivercrabbing" is used in place of "censorship". I don't see any particular reason why river crabbing is the appropriate term here, especially considering it is in reference to capitalist nations and the source cited after that sentence makes no reference to rivercrabbing. It seems like it only really serves to obfuscate the meaning, but I'm checking here in case there's a valid reason for its usage that I've missed. Jth125 (talk) 14:45, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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