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TJMSmith, on a quick read I am wondering whether “maidens” is meant to be “maids”, or if I just don’t know what role a “maiden” plays in a hotel? (Er. I guess I’m asking whether the connotation is intentional!) Innisfree987 (talk) 17:48, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Innisfree987, corrected to maids! Thanks for catching that. I wish I could access the further reading book. From the tiny snips I could see, it looks like it discusses Zimering's life in detail, especially immediately following the war. I think it mentioned that her father was a socialist and her mother was from Russia with Zionist leanings. TJMSmith (talk) 17:51, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
TJMSmith, struck gold! Do you have Project Muse access either from the Wikipedia Library or elsewhere? They have the text in full online! Innisfree987 (talk) 17:56, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Innisfree987, Amazing! I just requested Muse access through the WikiLibrary. TJMSmith (talk) 18:00, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
TJMSmith, I hope they reply quickly! I wish I could send you a relevant chapter but from the index it looks like she’s discussed pretty much throughout the book. Definitely a good resource, if I can I’ll try to add from it myself. Innisfree987 (talk) 18:12, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Innisfree987, Ok, thank you! I'm hoping this her bio gets featured at WP:ITN/C. Especially since there are currently no women listed in the RDs. TJMSmith (talk) 18:19, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
TJMSmith, ok bolstered by another cup of coffee I have started looking through the book! Question/request if you have time: ITN is so very picky about referencing (beyond what I understand to be required by BLP policy but anyway!) I assume that where you have added a cite at the end of a few sentences, it means all of the preceding is from that source, but I worry I’ll muck it up with my insertions. If you have a moment to attach a ref to each sentence, I think it would please ITN readers. Meanwhile I will go try to remind myself how to add page numbers to book references! Innisfree987 (talk) 20:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Innisfree987, What a find with that book. I think the author, Jeremy Varon, probably meets WP:AUTHOR. Anyway- thanks for adding page numbers which helps with verifiability/accessibility. The source definitely strengthens the article by filling gaps and provides and further context. Zimering was a strong and fascinating individual. TJMSmith (talk) 20:57, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
TJMSmith, oh! He’s a LaCapra student. No wonder the book is so good. And yes for sure AUTHOR. One thing at a time but in principle I’d be glad to help with starting up his page. Innisfree987 (talk) 21:03, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(And thank you for those references, much obliged!) Innisfree987 (talk) 21:06, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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