Talk:Rosalie Abella

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The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. --KenWalker | Talk 19:21, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy[edit]

The Controversy section seems to be more about someone disagreeing with a decision in which RA took part than a genuine controversy. SCC justices make hundreds of decisions each year, all of which are controversial in the sense that they are all contested. And someone wins and someone loses. The articles would get pretty big if each decision of the Court were to be listed. I think I'll remove the section in a few days if someone can't come up with a good reason that this particular case is "especially" controversial. --24.68.252.200 (talk) 07:51, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done 24.68.252.200 (talk) 11:57, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings User 24.68.252.200, See revised article for "good reason that this particular case is "especially" controversial." Boyd Reimer (talk) 16:33, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't mean to suggest that Hintzman's case isn't controversial or important. But this is RA's article, and it goes against WP:SS and WP:UNDUE to allow JH's case to dominate RA's page. Put another way: someone coming here to learn about RA neither wants nor needs to know about what Amnesty thinks about JH's case: they'd want to go to JH's page to find that out. And a brief link to JH's page can direct an interested visitor to that. Having more than half of RA's article devoted to the minutiae of someone else's case means it isn't RA's article any more 24.68.252.200 (talk) 04:11, 10 March 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Is this Censorship?[edit]

Greetings User 174.88.97.225,

On Apr 30 2009, you deleted the following entire paragraph:

Quote:

On November 15, 2007, Justice Abella was one of three Justices in the Coram regarding the dismissal of "the application for leave to appeal" of American conscientious objector, Iraq war resister, and refugee applicant Jeremy Hinzman. ^[1] As is the case with every leave decision, neither reasons nor a vote was released, so it is impossible to know how Justice Abella voted. Nevertheless, “in the wake of the Supreme Court’s decision,” ^[2] a motion was quickly developed ^[3] and eventually passed in the Parliament of Canada which appeared as a response and a remedy to those lower courts decisions. ^[4] (See details)

References[edit]

^ "Supreme Court of Canada - Decisions - Bulletin of November 16, 2007, (See Sections 32111 and 32112)".
^ Hill, Lawrence (November 24, 2007). "Just desertions". Ottawa Citizen. Retrieved 30 January 2009. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
^ Hill, Lawrence (November 24, 2007). "Just desertions". Ottawa Citizen. Retrieved 30 January 2009. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
^ CBC News (2007-11-15). "Top court refuses to hear cases of U.S. deserters". CBC News. Retrieved 2008-06-02.

End quote

That paragraph was well documented and well sourced. You accompanied that hasty deletion with these words: “(Inappropriate to refer to SCC leave decisions. These are not considered proper decisions and have no precedential or legal value and should not be referred to in the biography of a Jurist.)”

The rationale for your deletion is based on false premises: This is not a biography of a Jurist. Instead it is an encyclopaedia entry of a person. There is a significant difference. An encyclopaedic entry for a person is much broader than the strict legal confines of a traditional legal biography of a Jurist.

Here some examples:

Example One: The pregnancy of Justice Rosalie Abella has no relation at all to a traditional legal biography of a Jurist, and yet it is legitimately found in an encyclopaedic entry for the person Rosalie Abella. “The person Rosalie Abella” is broader than “the Jurist Rosalie Abella.”

Example two: The entry for Stephen Harper includes much more than the information about him as a Prime Minister. It includes the fact that he is a fan of ice hockey, and includes an entire section on his personal life.

The facts contained in the paragraph you deleted relate directly to the interplay between the Supreme Court Judges of a nation and the government of that nation—namely the Parliament of Canada. This is material significant enough for any encyclopaedia –regardless of whether or not it belongs in the strict legal confines of a traditional legal biography of a Jurist.

All edits in Wikipedia must follow the Wikipedia editing policy. If you would like to delete content from Wikipedia then it is best to produce the specific links to the Wikipedia editing policy which support your deletion. Thank you.

Boyd Reimer (talk) 21:51, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] "Supreme Court of Canada - Decisions - Bulletin of November 16, 2007, (See Sections 32111 and 32112)".

[2] Hill, Lawrence (November 24, 2007). "Just desertions". Ottawa Citizen. Retrieved 30 January 2009. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

[3] Hill, Lawrence (November 24, 2007). "Just desertions". Ottawa Citizen. Retrieved 30 January 2009. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

[4] CBC News (2007-11-15). "Top court refuses to hear cases of U.S. deserters". CBC News. Retrieved 2008-06-02.

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