Talk:Richard Howe, 1st Earl Howe

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Infobox[edit]

As Howe was an Admiral, I propose changing the infobox from a Person Infobox (which only contains family info which is in the text anyway) to a Military Person infobox (which contains more military detail). Any views? Dormskirk (talk) 22:39, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Military person infobox now used Dormskirk (talk) 14:25, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

question...[edit]

He was on Anson's expedition?

I love Patrick O'Brian's The Golden Ocean and The Unknown Shore, which were based on the journals of surviving individuals from the expedition. Was Howe one of the characters in the novels? Jack Byron was the protagonist of one of these novels. One of the other characters, a young midshipman, was the god-son of the King. Could that have been Howe?

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 02:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

POV[edit]

The EB/DNB material in this article is begging to be rewritten. Some events (the events with d'Estaing at New York and Rhode Island, to name but one example) are barely recognizable given the POV language used by those sources. Magic♪piano 16:05, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

now re-written. Dormskirk (talk) 19:55, 19 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You may have rewritten parts, but you've not (yet) touched the specific paragraph I complained about, which is just as POV when cited to a different source. Howe is being given too much credit for d'Estaing's caution, a more commonly cited reason for the particular passage of events. See Battle of Rhode Island for details and sources. (I'm also dubious about the reason given for his resignation, but I haven't been in those sources in some time.) Magic♪piano 01:02, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Now much toned down. Hope it's OK now. Dormskirk (talk) 21:07, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's not as POV, but it's a pretty significant simplification. (This is not necessarily a problem, but a slightly longer treatment might be called for if you're trying to GA this article.) Magic♪piano 14:21, 22 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Now expanded a bit. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 10:49, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

date of birth[edit]

At top of article is

Admiral of the Fleet Richard Howe, 1st Earl Howe, KG (8 March 1726 – 5 August 1799)

He was born before 1752, the year England and its colonies changed from old style to new style calendar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.20 (talk) 17:19, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]