Talk:Lamia Al-Gailani Werr

Sources

This book apparently features Al-Gailani. It might be useful for injecting some personality into the article. – Joe (talk) 07:13, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Lamia al-Gailani

Joe Roe a wonderful article you have written, keep up the good work. But, it seems that you have wiped out my article instead of merging it with yours (which was made after mine). Not everything on the net is correct; I had interviewed her personally on January 16, 2019. For example, she is not a graduate of the University of Baghdad. Neuroforever (talk) 09:08, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@Neuroforever: I tried to merge every verifiable piece of information that wasn't already in this article, but a lot of the details in your article weren't in the cited sources. Unfortunately, we can't use a personal interview as a source (unless you publish it elsewhere so we can cite it). Several sources say she went to the University of Baghdad so we are kind of stuck with that. – Joe (talk) 09:12, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@Neuroforever: Her post-nominals were veritable and can be seen on the SOAS's website, for instance; and there is much other veritable information you have not included. I don't know why the biography of this very reputable and famous person is still controversial? The Arabic page was (and is still) full of wrong and misleading information (anyone can review the edit history). Many articles on the net, which were published online after her death, were dependent on the Arabic page and on the copy/paste policy from other sources. For me, it is very painful to see the life history and biography of a dedicated historian is very much distorted, very painful indeed. I have received some messages after this "merge" today, strongly and very sharply criticizing my credibility (they thought yours is the only correct one), in spite of me being the first person to make a credible and trustworthy webpage about her (in the presence of 100s of Iraqi scholars, bloggers, and historians; I'm a neurologist). I was supposed to make a Wiki page about Dr. Bahija Khalil Ismail (Arabic: بهيجه خليل اسماعيل) (may rest in peace, who died just a few days before Dr. Lamia al-Gailani, also in Jordan), former director if Iraqi Museum, but I will not do it; I invite people to make it. Neuroforever (talk) 11:18, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

We don't put academic degree post-nominals in the lead, just as a matter of style. See MOS:POSTNOM.

I apologise for the mix up with the two articles. I tried to merge as much as I could but if I missed something (and it's verifiable), please do feel free to copy it over. It wasn't my intention to undermine your credibility or repeat misinformation, but as Wikipedia editors, we can only summarise what is published in reliable sources. – Joe (talk) 11:56, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Lamia Al-Gailani Werr/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ingenuity (talk · contribs) 20:51, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

I can review this. Please ping me once you're done. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 20:51, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Prose

• studied at the University of Baghdad for year should be "a year" or "one year"

References

1. Add archive url, add link to Richard Sandomir
2. Add archive url
3. Add archive url
4. See #5, as they both have the same content and can be merged into one reference
5. This can be switched to the AP article, which is the original source
6. Looks good
7. Looks good
8. Add archive url
9. Dead link. Unfortunately, this doesn't appear to be available at the Internet Archive (or any other archive that I know of) so it should be removed
10. Appears to fail WP:SPS. I did manage to find the article this blog post was about, though, see here.
11. Dead link, though it is available at the Wayback machine. The author is Eve Conant, so that can be added to the reference
12. Add author, date, and archive url
13. This ref has weird parameters; it is currently |last=Maruf|first=Kanishk Tharoor and Maryam, though it should be |last1=Maruf |first1=Maryam |last2=Tharoor |first2=Kaniskh. Add archive url and website name.
14. Add author, date, and archive url

GA criteria

• Well-written:
• Verifiable: I've spot checked all of the sources, looks good
• Broad in its coverage:
• Neutral:
• Stable: hasn't even had a single vandal!
• Illustrated: there's only one image, but it is CC BY-SA and relevant.
• No copyright violations I have detected.

Thanks for the review Ingenuity, especially the close attention to reference formatting. I've incorporated all your suggestions and corrections apart from adding archive URLs, since in my experience there's usually bots that handle that, and as far as I know it's not a hard requirement for GA. – Joe (talk) 12:18, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Looks good, promoting now. Great work on this, @Joe Roe. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 14:20, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 08:03, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that Lamia Al-Gailani Werr was the only lifetime honorary member of the British Institute for the Study of Iraq? Source: http://www.bisi.ac.uk/content/dr-lamia-al-gailani-werr
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Junior Colson

Improved to Good Article status by Joe Roe (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 18:35, 12 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lamia Al-Gailani Werr; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Thanks for this, Onegreatjoke. I'd completely forgotten that the GA meant the article was eligible for DYK again. I think we could find some more interesting facts about Al-Gailani, though. For example: – Joe (talk) 04:11, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
  • ALT1 ... that Lamia Al-Gailani Werr helped rebuild the Iraq Museum after it was looted in the 2003 American-led invasion of Iraq? Source

New enough, long enough. Hook short enough and sourced (as is every paragraph). No neutrality problems found, no copyright problems found, no maintenance templates found. QPQ done and image properly licensed. Assuming good faith on offline references. Good to go.--Launchballer 07:30, 12 May 2023 (UTC)