Talk:Labor Day

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Notes on "Collective Action" vs "Honoring the Worker"[edit]

This is a paragraph to justify the edit I just did to remove the narrative about Labor Day being to "honor the worker" etc. The TL;DR summary of where Labor Day comes from is: working conditions for laborers in the US were awful in the late 1800's (and probably before that, too). The working class organized through various unions, and there were peaceful demonstrations which spread across the country. The democratically elected leaders responded to this pressure by creating a holiday, eventually culminating with a federal holiday. However it was framed in the bill which officially created this, the holiday has always been about the power of collective action in a democratic society, which has given us things like the 40-hour work week and this holiday. Specifically it is not "look around at all the great things you've built, laborer! Pat yourself on the back." I'm sure this change in narrative needs a lot more citations - I found some interesting articles on the DOL site, but there is probably much more to be found in written literature and other sources.

Mugwumpjism (talk) 20:26, 30 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pullman strike reference desirable?[edit]

Seems like this article ought to mention the Pullman Strike, which (according to that article and its sources) was the proximate cause of the US federal recognition of Labor Day. 73.92.193.211 (talk) 18:45, 2 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Requested move 23 July 2020[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. Daniel Case (talk) 05:58, 11 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Labor Day → Labor Day (United States) – The article at Labor Day describes the U.S. holiday; the article at Labour Day describes the holiday in general. Since "Labor Day" and "Labour Day" are interchangable expressions internationally, I suggest to resolve any ambiguity we move the article about the U.S. holiday to a disambiguated title. The other article, and Labor Day (disambiguation) stay where they are, and Labor Day would redirect to the article about the U.S. holiday. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:06, 23 July 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. © Tbhotch™ (en-3). 04:59, 4 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What other countries have a holiday that is spelled "Labor Day"? Rreagan007 (talk) 17:38, 24 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Rreagan007: The Philippines. —hueman1 (talk • contributions) 14:30, 25 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well if we ever have an article on the Philippine holiday we can add a link to that in the hatnote of this article. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:11, 25 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support - this seems like a reasonable move, but I think Labor Day should redirect to Labour Day since it is celebrated by countries all around the world with different dates. Interstellarity (talk) 19:30, 24 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose. The spelling difference here is sufficient disambiguation. Calidum 19:40, 24 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support and Labor Day should redirect to Labour Day In ictu oculi (talk)
  • Oppose as per Rreagan007, and WP:ENGVAR, frankly. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:45, 25 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose for the reasons stated. It's kind of obvious if one actually reads the article that the expressions are not interchangeable at all. Especially in light of the Labor history of the United States. --Coolcaesar (talk) 06:27, 27 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Also, to expand on this point, Wikipedia policy is that we don't disambiguate in article titles where there is no confusion.
  • Support as per Interstellarity and In ictu oculi (i.e. let Labor Day redirect to Labour Day). I was surprised to read this page and conclude that it was for the US holiday; we should aim for "the principle of least astonishment". --PerLundberg (talk) 18:26, 28 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Your notion of "least astonishment" has no basis in current Wikipedia article titles guidelines or policies. There is no point to add additional length to the article title when the spelling itself is sufficient to disambiguate, per User:Rreagan007 and User:Yaksar. The title proposed by User:Shhhnotsoloud is awkward, ungainly, and lengthy. As a programmer, you should know better. (I'm specifically thinking of Hungarian notation and how the current consensus is towards keeping unnecessary information out of method names.) Please engage in the normal good faith process of seeking changes to the current consensus (i.e., initiate an RfC on the relevant policies or guidelines) rather than supporting irregular and unnecessarily long article titles. --Coolcaesar (talk) 19:19, 28 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • support as per Interstellarity and In ictu oculi (ie, let Labor Day redirect to Labour Day). —usernamekiran (talk) 20:21, 30 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose. In general I am skeptical of WP:SMALLDETAILS but this is a rare case where it makes sense: the only relevant disambig targets would be "Labor Day" in countries that spell it that way, which is no other English-langauge speaking countries. So someone spelling it without the "u" almost assuredly means the US version. The only possible confusing would be the film & the novel spelled "Labor", but those meanings are clearly dwarfed by the holiday. SnowFire (talk) 23:52, 30 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose per User:Rreagan007. The page about the American holiday has the American spelling - that;s good enough as a disambiguator. --Rob Kelk 19:26, 2 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Wearing white[edit]

White shoes are not acceptable after Labor Day! 67.6.70.155 (talk) 13:52, 3 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Labor day for Mothers[edit]

Labor day should be for all people who have been through labor and given birth. It makes sense since no one works on labor day. TESStify TESStimonial 159.235.144.181 (talk) 02:46, 6 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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