Talk:Immigration to the United States

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Semi-protected edit request on 21 September 2020[edit]

The statement: "There has been a significant increase in the removal of immigrants since President Trump took office." Should be removed or edited. The preceding president removed immigrants at a significantly higher rate than Trump during his first 6-7 years and then basically stopped on his last year in office. So this sentence is misleading, biased, and subjective. A correct statement would be the facts. Show the deportations that took place over the last 20 years. Obama had some years over 300k deported. Trump is in the low 200k. Please don't lie and say Trump has "increased" especially don't say "significatly increased" deportation. Wmorrisr1 (talk) 13:41, 21 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jack Frost (talk) 02:59, 22 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 19 January 2021[edit]

Add {{US citizenship and immigration}} to the page. (talk) 05:26, 19 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done EN-Jungwon 12:31, 19 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Suggest splitting this article[edit]

Hello,

This article is over 300,000 bytes. The splitting guidelines suggest to split an article when it reaches or surpasses 100,000 bytes. Therefore, I think it is a good idea to split it at this time. If you oppose this, please add a comment with your rationale. Thanks, DesertPipeline (talk) 07:36, 22 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I agree with you, so I support the split. deisenbe (talk) 02:04, 17 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
i think we should split it now — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.28.81.85 (talk) 12:48, 17 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This is the proposal as presently described on the article page:

It has been suggested that this article be split into articles titled Demographics of immigration to the United States, Effects of immigration to the United States, Legal issues of immigration to the United States, Public opinion of immigration to the United States and United States immigration policy.

I agree that the present article is cumbersome and could benefit from being divided. It seems to me that it would be appropriate to keep law and policy in a single article, as law and policy intersect. I also wonder if effects and public opinion should be kept within a single article. Arllaw (talk) 13:18, 17 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
User:Arllaw: Sorry for my late response. If effects and public opinion are to be in a single article, what should that article's title be? "Effects and public opinion of immigration to the United States"? If you have any suggestions, please feel free to state them; this goes for anyone else as well. Regards, DesertPipeline (talk) 22:27, 21 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Perhaps something simpler, like "Impact of Immigration to the United States". Arllaw (talk) 23:41, 21 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
User:Arllaw: It might be necessary to do without conciseness in favour of clarity. I'm not sure if "impact" communicates the intended message, and I'm also concerned that it could be a colloquialism in this context. I'd like to hear what others think about this, though – perhaps there's a better title someone else could come up with, or perhaps the title you suggested is fine and I'm just overthinking it. I posted about this split discussion on the United States wikiproject talk page once before, but that didn't seem to attract much attention. Do you have any suggestions for how we can get more input here? Regards, DesertPipeline (talk) 01:36, 22 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
"Impact of..." seems to be a common approach to titling articles, but you may find other common approaches. Even though less specific, a concise title can provide advantages to end-users over a "more precise" title that is excessively long. Arllaw (talk) 12:52, 22 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
User:Arllaw: We can go with that then. So what is the list of proposed sub-articles now? I'll update the template on the article page accordingly. DesertPipeline (talk) 14:19, 22 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
How about just "Effects of immigration"? Public opinion to it would be a section. deisenbe (talk) 11:29, 25 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
User:Deisenbe: That was my first suggestion. Depending on the merit of the points for and against such titles, and any other options that exist, we can decide which to use. Regards, DesertPipeline (talk) 16:12, 25 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As anybody who's ever tried it knows, splitting an article is not as simple as it sounds. X-References may fail, so notes have to be copied and pasted. Plus there need to be new links associating the new articles. All the links to the present article—there are hundreds—need to be revised multiple times. To which new articles would the existing illustrations be moved? What new illustrations are available for the new articles? There is also the question of whether everything in the current article would properly fit into one of the new articles, and what to do if some of it doesn't. And there is also the not insignificant question of who would do what, and who would coordinate things. In my view, there has to be one person at least keeping track of all the parts of each revision.

Perhaps someone could explain to me what section(s) of the present article would properly be turned into an article on "United Ststes Immigration Policy", as suggested above. The history?

On looking at the existing article, it says absolutely nothing, and says that it is saying nothing, about the forced immigration of enslaved Africans until 1808, and clandestinely afterwards. They were not being counted as immigrants at the time, but in every sense I can think of, they were still immigrants. They came from foreign countries to the United States, where almost all of them remained. They were immigrants. And their numbers were substantial. They belong in the statistics. deisenbe (talk) 05:13, 24 November 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This discussion has been dormant for several months, so I've begun the process of splitting the article. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 23:43, 8 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Cite error[edit]

The refname "naturalization" is no longer used in the article but still appears in the reflist, causing a cite error. It should be commented out or removed.
Thanks ActivelyDisinterested (talk) 14:40, 15 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:46, 15 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you ActivelyDisinterested (talk) 15:35, 15 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Conditions at the Border[edit]

According to the source State of the Union In Numbers in April 2021, more than 20,000 unaccompanied children were located at the border facility of Health and Human Services. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janekaydough (talkcontribs) 00:34, 22 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]