Talk:Hank Aaron

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hank Aaron/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Failed "good article" nomination

This article failed good article nomination. This is how the article, as of May 21, 2009, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: The article has several basic structural problems. The WP:LEAD exceeds tha four paragraph limit due to several abbreviated paragraphs lumped in together. This problem extends into the main body of the text where several sections contain numerous choppy paragraphs. The article needs to be reorganized to have more substantive paragraphs. I would convert $10,000 in 1952 to current dollars (see Fountain of Time). I would use the link for the Puerto Rican league like they do in the Jackie Robinson article rather than name the country.

2. Factually accurate?: Numerous paragraphs have no citations. The article should be reorganized so that each paragraph has at least one citation.

3. Broad in coverage?: I would also prefer to see a section devoted to a statistical summary of his career. See Barry Bonds, which has a section showing where he ranks in several important statistical categories. Aaron's article would benefit by such a seciton. I would also expand his playing career section so that it is not out of balance with the home run record cont3ent.

4. Neutral point of view?: Yes

5. Article stability? Yes

6. Images?: File:HankAaron1957.jpg appears to be under consideration for deletion.

This article has a way to go. I would like to see expansion in areas and reorganization in others.

When these issues are addressed, the article can be renominated. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it have it reassessed. Thank you for your work so far.— TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:28, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

In my opinion, this article needs more work before making GA-there are POV and peacock statements, some of which I've edited, and I propose to do still more in this regard. Hushpuckena (talk) 20:47, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Agree.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:02, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Hank vs. Henry

"Hank Aaron" -wikipedia retrieves 894,000 hits. "Henry Aaron" -wikipedia retrieves 132,000 hits. Kingturtle (talk) 03:00, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Part of the ambiguity is that baseball cards usually had him as "Hank" vs. the famous Milo Hamilton radio call of number 715 in which he called him "Henry" [1] (Curt Gowdy also called him "Henry" on the TV call, I think). And then there's the song, "Move over Babe, here comes Henry", which includes the line, "Hank's hit another." And then, I may be wrong, but I think The Hammer himself says it both ways from time to time. In any case, his own autobiography is subtitled "The Hank Aaron Story" and includes a presumed autograph that says "Hank". [2] Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 04:25, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Here's a clip from the old-old "Home Run Derby" in which Mark Scott calls him "Henry" consistently. [3] So much for my theory that it was later in his career that "Henry" came up. This is actually an interesting clip in that it discusses the Home Run Derby ground rules at L.A.'s Wrigley. Mark then starts calling him "Hank". Go figure. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 04:37, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Actually, if you look through the Gnews hits by 5 yr increments, it appears that he was most often Henry at the beginning, and most often Hank in the later years.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:10, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Anecdotal references from The Scrapbook History of Baseball: a 1956 clipping which calls him Hank; a 1959 clipping which calls him Henry; a 1961 clipping calls him Hank; clippings from 1974 have it both ways. Perhaps the most telling is his own father calling him "Henry". We're probably making too much of this, as I think he simply answers to both. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 05:29, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Sporting News annuals starting in 1955 when they first published rosters which had players' nicknames, consistently call him "Hank" every year. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 05:33, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Re-reading a 1974 book by Phil Musick, called Hank Aaron: The Man Who Beat the Babe, it seems that everyone in Aaron's family called him "Henry". On p.66 it says that Don Davidson, the Braves P.R. guy, came up with "Hank", as a way to try to make the already-stoic Aaron a little bit artificially familiar. The book also claims that "Hammerin' Hank", and also "Bad Henry" (the latter so dubbed by opposing pitchers) arose around that time, his rookie year of 1954. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:09, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

"1952 Negro League World Series"?

According to the Negro League World Series article, the last such series was held in 1948. Which article is right? -- 92.231.116.164 (talk) 00:55, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Primes in his career

To the main editors of this article:

I believe that it might be interesting for you to know that there is an article written in the Journal of Recreational Mathematics, by mathematicians of the Department of Mathematics of the University of Georgia, 714 and 715, that works some interesting properties of those famous numbers relating to prime numbers, a few of them easily understandable by people like me, with no special interest in Mathematics.

I was planning to write a small section with the same title as this one (a pun on Aaron´s main article other section, Prime of his career), but given that I don´t even understand baseball rules nor baseball culture (it is a rare sport in Argentina), I prefered just to signal the existence of the mathematical article and let you decide if the reference deserves a line or two in the main article.

I believe it deserves it, because it proves how that home run record penetrated into popular and even academic culture. In fact, the importance of that record is aknowledged in the mathematical article, although I was surprised to see that even racial tensions were involved, when curious about it, I was directed to the main Wikipedia article.

Great story. I might not understand baseball, but I do understand the heroism and the dignity, as it was shown by the people involved. In particular, Hank Aaron and Babe Ruth's widow.

Pmronchi (talk) 14:01, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Pre empting incorrect edits

There was a big scare today that Aaron died. Just making sure we all potential editors know that this was incorrect http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/03/hank_aaron_doing_fine_atlanta.html https://twitter.com/Braves/status/311182195345723392 --64.106.237.4 (talk) 20:39, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Much appreciated. This article I'm sure will get a major influx of editing whenever he does pass. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:53, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Reference/Footnotes

The references and footnotes are very hard to follow on this page. 74.103.168.153 (talk) 00:23, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Students on the Field

The section on home run 715 mentions that 2 white college students, including Craig Sager, rushed the field with Hank Aaron. The actual identities of the students is actually pretty common knowledge now, namely that they were high school seniors not named Craig Sager (http://http://vimeo.com/91475420 http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100827&content_id=14001780&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5504664). I would suggest that this be amended in the article. 71.45.21.116 (talk) 17:52, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Personal life? Wife? Children?

Personal life? Ncsr11 (talk) 08:13, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

The line "Aaron also has 5 sons named Hank Aaron. None of them play baseball" appears factually wrong and inconsistent with other descriptions of Aaron's personal life. If it is wrong, then it should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.78.0.234 (talk) 03:32, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Personal Life - Vaccination for Covid-19

That Mr. Aaron was innoculated is indeed a fact. He did so publicly with several other African American leaders to encourage others to do the same in the battle against Covid-19. This does not in any way tie into his death. According to Dr. Walter A. Orenstein, a former director at the CDC’s immunization program and a professor at the Emory Vaccine Center, all the data from clinical trials did not support a role for vaccine in causing death.

Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, said in a program where millions of older Americans and those with serious health conditions are being vaccinated, some are going to die of heart attacks, strokes and other causes that have nothing to do with a vaccine.

Dr. Carlos del Rio, an infectious disease expert at Emory School of Medicine, said the much bigger risk to frail, older people is the coronavirus. “We have 4,000 (COVID-19) deaths every day in our country,” he said. “We need to put things in perspective. I’m more afraid of COVID than I am the vaccine.” GJFraser (talk) 00:47, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

References

Why is his vaccination mentioned under his death if they are not related? Aaron was promoting the vaccine and in a twist of cruel irony his death is being used by anti-vaccers as evidence the Covid vaccination causes death. They point you right to Wikipedia as evidence.

I don't know anything about editing Wikipedia, but I suggest that mention of his vaccination not be included under the subject line Death. ~trm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C6:4A80:47C0:DD0B:F02E:22CF:8850 (talk) 00:33, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Negro League Team

What is the reasoning for not including Hank's Negro League team (Indianapolis Clowns, 1952 before his contract was sold to the Boston Braves) in the infobox at the top? This information should be listed. The Indianapolis Clowns were his first professional team. To not list them, implies inferiority to the "real" (read: white) major league baseball teams. The Negro League teams are an important part of MLB history and a player's time with Negro League teams should be listed among their professional teams in the infobox at the top of the page. This should apply to not just Mr. Aaron's page, but all pages for players that have important ties to the Negro League teams. Thereadletter (talk) 14:59, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Historians generally agree that 1948 represents the last year that Negro league baseball can be considered to be played at a Major League quality. Robinson broke the color barrier in '46 and by '49 enough blacks had integrated the Majors and minors that Negro league baseball was a shell of its former self. By the time Aaron played for the Clowns in '52, the quality of play was that of what today would be called single-A or Rookie ball -- maybe even of lower quality than that, maybe barely even semi-pro ball. Aaron himself just used it as a stepping stone for pro ball. Therefore, it is hardly anything more than trivia when compared to the bigger picture of both Aaron's career and Negro league baseball itself. Rgrds. --64.85.216.208 (talk) 07:04, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

That doesn't really hold much water in this context. The info box at the top, doesn't say "Teams of a certain (arbitrary) quality", it says "teams." If you look at any player info box in soccer, the teams go all the way back to their youth career. To be clear, I'm not advocating for that, but the Indianapolis Clowns were a professional baseball team when he played for them. The quality of play doesn't much matter despite your claims that "historians generally agree" (citation needed). They were a professional team, and should be listed to acknowledge his (and the) the history of professional Negro league baseball. Thereadletter (talk) 22:59, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

2021 redux

The Negro leagues, include the Negro American League, were categorized as "major leagues" by Major League Baseball beginning December 16, 2020. ( press release https://www.mlb.com/press-release/press-release-mlb-officially-designates-the-negro-leagues-as-major-league ) Obviously full edits of all Negro league players' entries will take some time; but this seems a good time for Aaron's one season (1952) with the Indianapolis Clowns to be added to the article introduction, and the sidebar entry listing the teams he played for should move the Clowns to the same formatting as the Braves. I also suggest the article note that, once MLB finishes incorporating Negro league statistics, Aaron's 755 home run total will increase by five. (stats cite https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/01/22/hank-aaron-stats/ ) User:PeteGaughan (talk) 3:32, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

After Robinson's integration, the remaining Negro leagues' quality of play quickly deteriorated. By around 1950, the NAL was at a level of AAA or high AA. I would support doing this for someone like Paige or Doby, but the 1952 Clowns? Minor league. Rgrds. --Bison X (talk) 06:55, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

I don't believe that MLB will make subjective or partial distinctions, or attempt to rank leagues; American Assn and Players' League were both inferior to National League but are still classified as "major". The MLB decision clearly puts Negro leagues on par with AL and NL. The question I raise is how to reflect that in the Aaron article. User:PeteGaughan (talk) 3:25, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

The WaPo article makes no mention of NgL stats. The headline of the MLB article states "Period from 1920-1948". We're talking 1952. Additionally, it makes no mention of Aaron. As it stands, there's nothing really to add to the article. Rgrds. --Bison X (talk) 05:09, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

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civil rights

"a reluctant civil rights icon", was a description used by WSJ at the time of his death, [4]. What should the article write? 89.8.104.129 (talk) 19:52, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Cause of death

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2021/01/22/hank-aaron-baseball-hall-of-famer-dies/437341002/

https://www.revolt.tv/2021/1/22/22244419/hank-aaron-passes-away

https://www.complex.com/sports/2021/01/henry-hank-aaron-dead-at-86

According to these three sources, he died from a stroke. MikaelaArsenault (talk) 20:03, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Not done Per conflicting request, more recent request below. Patience seems in order. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 17:47, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

News reporting on vaccine theories. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/hank-aaron-dies-days-after-receiving-moderna-vaccine/ 2600:8804:6600:592:A96A:7F6E:3131:22E2 (talk) 23:29, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Children's Health Defense is an advocacy org known for publishing fake news. --Sangdeboeuf (talk) 05:27, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Fake news? So are you saying that he didn't in fact die days after receiving the vaccine? Paul Magnussen (talk) 03:00, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Henry

Can this page please be renamed to Henry Aaron? That was his name, and he detested being called Hank. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.223.179.60 (talk) 20:15, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• This is not true. While it was the Braves' decision to start calling him Hank, he had no problem with it. He signed his name "Hank Aaron" for the rest of his life. Nohomersryan (talk) 20:43, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
  • It decidedly is true. He likened it to being called "boy" as an adult man. He answered to Hank, but he only really listened to Henry.
    • Do you have any sources? If he hated being called Hank so much, why would he say "I don't care if I'm Henry Aaron or Hank Aaron", release statements attributed to Hank, use Hank while writing letters, and autograph baseballs with Hank? He may have preferred Henry, but if he really had a serious problem with Hank, it wouldn't have been consistently used for over 65 years. Nohomersryan (talk) 23:25, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
      • The book 'The Last Hero' by Howard Bryant, which I can't find at the moment and thus can't quote directly, has a lot to say about it. From here citing the book: ( https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/henry-aaron-last-hero/ ) it says "No one who actually knew Aaron called him “Hank” (save Aaron’s teammate and mentee Dusty Baker, who later coached Barry Bonds). The nickname was media-fueled and suited a racially charged mischaracterization of Aaron as simple-minded." The Braves gave him the nickname and told him to use it and by the time he felt sure enough of himself not to, everyone already called him that. Much like a much nicer version of Dick Allen being called "Richie" in Philadelphia. Also his official page with the Braves calls him "Henry": ( https://www.mlb.com/braves/team/front-office/henry-aaron ), as does his Hall of Fame plaque. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.223.179.60 (talk) 01:51, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
        • I had a look at the book (there's a preview available on Google), and it moreso indicates that he felt "Hank" was disconnected from who he was, not that he hated the name all his life. It doesn't really address my other points either. And for what it's worth, his HOF plaque says "Henry 'Hank' Aaron" (standard form for HOF hypocorisms) and the Braves bio calls him Hank in the text. Anyway, I don't see the point of replying back-and-forth a billion times, so if you think there's really a chance this page could be moved, feel free to file with WP:RM. Nohomersryan (talk) 02:12, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
          • The book goes into some detail about that, and it is worth a read, regardless of how you feel about this issue. I'm not sure it's in print anymore or I'd have already bought a second copy to quote directly from. In any event, I've taken your suggestion--I'd never done that before and was unclear on how, so thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.223.179.60 (talk) 04:55, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
          • My husband, a lifelong Braves fan, told me that Aaron preferred Henry. That's not a citation, of course. However, if he preferred Henry, it seems disrespectful to entitle the article "Hank Aaron". I looked for citations for his preference, and found only one newspaper article. Also, google ngrams shows that Henry Aaron was most common early in his career, Hank later on. Because of this I believe the story that Hank was a nickname created by a publicist. I will look some more. Also, how often are wikipedia articles about people titled by their nicknames? Ngriffeth (talk) 17:08, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
            • @Ngriffeth: Almost always. We even have a rule about it, which I'm not taking the time to look up. See Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton for two examples. YoPienso (talk) 16:08, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Home run record

"Broke Babe Ruth's record with 755, which stood for 33 years..." Most media (at least those with which I'm familiar) usually add "until MLB's steroid era" (albeit sans the helpful blue link, which would provide clarity for readers unfamiliar with the subject). I will declare my bias: I am a longtime fan of the great Mr. Aaron, and was filled with disgust and contempt when Barry Bonds usurped Aaron's record. With that in mind, rather than making a bold edit, I ask what others think about this. Thank you in advance. Joefromrandb (talk) 23:56, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

As no one seems to object, I have added it for the moment. Joefromrandb (talk) 19:30, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I don't see what's "POV" about it; it's commonplace in media, at least newspapers, particularly when referring to Aaron, Maris, and Ruth, et al. It would certainly be POV to say something like: "Aaron should still be considered the rightful owner of this record because Bonds wouldn't have broken it without steroids"; that goes without saying. I also agree that simply using "steroid era" as an invisible asterisk on my own would be POV. I don't think the same should be said for mimicking what is common, albeit admittedly not universal, practice amongst baseball writers everywhere. Joefromrandb (talk) 20:25, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Covid19 Vaccination

Hank Aaron took the Covid Vaccine about two weeks ago. I think that is worth mentioning: https://www.wkrg.com/honoring-hammerin-hank/baseball-legend-hank-aaron-got-virus-vaccine-earlier-in-january/ 105.12.6.5 (talk) 01:16, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes, mentioned at the time in lots of WP:RS e.g. ESPN [5] and mentioned alongside his death ("Health experts urge confidence in vaccine after superstar’s death") in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution [6] and plenty of other WP:RS too. Some sources make a point of saying no cause of death is given, and we probably should too. The fact that some people will interpret it in different ways should not stop us mentioning it neutrally. Adpete (talk) 05:46, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Done. Adpete (talk) 07:31, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I agree we should state it. It was just removed, and frankly doind that only leads to edit wars. Jahabdank (talk) 23:45, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

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Hank Aaron → Henry Aaron – Henry was his name, the name he preferred to go buy. According to the book 'The Last Hero' he hated being called Hank, which he associated with the same kind of racism he felt from being called "boy" as an adult man. He certainly went by Hank, and would respond when called that, as he was far too nice of a person to scold someone, much like a nicer version of Dick Allen who one day stopped putting up with being called "Richie." I think today is an appropriate time to honor Henry Aaron by renaming his Wiki entry to his proper name. "Hank" can go in as most nicknames, e.g. "Henry 'Hank' Aaron." Thank you for your consideration. I am a Wiki newbie, so if this needs to go elsewhere I apologize. 66.223.179.60 (talk) 04:53, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

supportSrikTLG (ta≥lk) 05:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)SrikTLG

• Oppose "Preferred to go buy"? How much did he pay? Please don't be silly. Joefromrandb (talk) 05:29, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose He was almost ubiquitously known as Hank. As WP:UCRN discusses, "the name most typically used in reliable sources is generally preferred." In this case, this is Hank. TheMrP (talk) 05:46, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Hank Aaron should be the name of this article per WP:COMMONNAME. Natg 19 (talk) 05:47, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. Good faith proposal, but I'm still not really convinced he especially considered "Hank" a scourge. As I indicated earlier he was fine with writing letters as "Hank", releasing statements under "Hank", autographing baseballs as "Hank", using "Hank" on twitter, releasing an autobiography called "The Hank Aaron Story", and saying "I don't care if I'm Henry Aaron or Hank Aaron or nobody". I see this as more like Wilver/Willie Stargell than Dick/Richie Allen. Nohomersryan (talk) 05:48, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose - slightly better known as Hank IMO, and short of proof that he hated the name "Hank" himself - I'm inclined to leave well enough alone. Thanks to User:Nohomersryan for the research. — Ched (talk) 05:53, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Snowclose per above. His common name will be Hank Aaron for the forseeable future. May he rest in peace. O.N.R. ^(talk) 05:54, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

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This is ridiculous. He hated this name. We should honor his own wishes. WTF. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.223.179.60 (talk) 10:05, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

How this awesome and amazing baseball player felt about his nickname is not nearly as important as how he is written about in reliable sources. Wikipedia is not a reservoir of the feelings of notable people. We must rely upon and only upon how those notable people are written about and referred to in reliable sources. That is why WP:COMMONNAME is a major and important policy on Wikipedia. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 10:20, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Let's say for a moment that he did hate the name "Hank". I'm not sure that he did because I do not know how reliable that claim in that one book is. Surely the national media didn't get the memo. Wikipedia is not here to right great wrongs. We're here to follow the reliable sources, which make clear that "Hank", a common hypocorism of "Henry", is the common name. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:23, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Its sad, but its the name he is most commonly known as and as history will remember him. It is an interesting fact that he apparently didn't like his name, but that's about as far as that little bit of trivia is going to get on this article. We are editors and we are suppose to report the facts as the WP:RS reports them, not interpret them as WP:OR. EliteArcher88 (talk) 00:26, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

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Please add the line "No cause of death was disclosed" at the end of the sentence referring to Hank Aaron's death. 1.43.6.217 (talk) 20:29, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Done. O.N.R. ^(talk) 20:39, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

25 All Star Games?

Several source state Aaron played in 25 All Star games from 1955 to 1975. Shouldn't this be 21? Where are the additional 4 games coming from? The AS Game is only played once per year, correct? Thank you someone for clarifying this.

Mikepascoe (talk) 19:59, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

From Major League Baseball All-Star Game#All-Star Game scheduling: "There were two All-Star Games played each season from 1959 through 1962. The second game was added to raise money for the MLB players' pension funds, as well as other causes. The experiment was later abandoned on the grounds that having two games watered down the appeal of the event." Rgrds. --Bison X (talk) 01:19, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Chronology does not match statements

According to this page, Aaron was "named the Braves' vice president and director of player development" following his 1982 induction into the Baseball Hall of Fame, and "this made him one of the first minorities in Major League Baseball upper-level management." HOWEVER, the next paragraph states that he "became senior vice president" in 1980. If this second paragraph is correct then the 1982 appointment would not have been the milestone-setter. AdmPope (talk) 12:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Additional significant award not mentioned

On April 1, 1974, Hank Aaron was commissioned an Honorary Admiral in the Alabama State Naval Militia by Gov. George C. Wallace. News of his honorary commission to flag officer rank and status was published on April 3, 1974, in the Baltimore Sun, Baltimore, MD, pg. 28, in the article titled Murrell's 2 homers help Atlanta top Birds, 3-2. Honorary commissions in the Alabama militia are the highest awards of honor that the Governor can bestow upon individual civilians. AdmPope (talk) 12:06, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Infobox

Hello. In the infobox, it says that Aaron was an All-Star 25 times from 1955-1975. I don't want to count all the years but I know that that isn't 25 years. Could somebody fact check that? Thanks. Cherrell410 (talk) 01:51, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

• Between 1959 and 1962 there were two all star games every year. This info is correct. Indrian (talk) 01:54, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

  Ok thanks Cherrell410 (talk) 01:55, 9 June 2022 (UTC)