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So for some reason German Empire is considered "absolute monarchy" in 1916-1918. What is the source for this claim? Every source tells that Emperor actually lost power in 1916 because Hinderburg and Luderdorff became de facto military dictators. Emperor retained all power he had before the war but he never gained "absolute" power over the country. You can find this information from for example Röhl´s Kaiser Wilhelm II 1859–1941: A Concise Life, 2014.

Also how is German Empire considered federal semi-constitutional monarchy (non parliamentary) when for example listed monarchies below are considered "parliamentary" even though their monarchs retained executive powers like German Emperor:

Russian Empire

Empire of Japan

Bourbon Restoration

Ottoman Empire

For example Russian Empire was far more autocratic than German Empire. This is one of the reasons why German social democrats supported the war effort against Russian empire. This information can be found from for example Strachan´s The First World War: A New History, 2014. So having Russian Empire as "parliamentary" and German Empire not is just false information.

I also want to point out that having a parliamentary system does not equal liberal democracy. For example Soviet union had a parliamentary system in it but obviously was not free or democratic. And German Empire was at best semi-democratic. 86.50.72.21 (talk) 07:49, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

In order to change the existing consensual version of the information you dispute in the infobox, you will need to provide citations from WP:Reliable sources to support your views, not simply argumentation. Can you do that? Beyond My Ken (talk) 08:33, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for answering! I did provide two citations when I made the change. But I can provide few links here below.
https://www.britannica.com/place/German-Empire/Establishment-of-the-North-German-Confederation
https://books.google.fi/books?id=CjQzcn7Hp_AC&printsec=frontcover&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
Röhl, J. (2014). The impotence of the Supreme War Lord at war. In Kaiser Wilhelm II: A Concise Life (pp. 172-173). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. doi:10.1017/CBO9781139680394.035 86.50.72.21 (talk) 09:42, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Here´s one more source:
https://www.repository.cam.ac.uk/bitstream/handle/1810/284431/Article%20GH%20The%20Kaiser%20in%20the%20Federal%20State%20Oliver%20Haardt%20Abgabeversion.docx?sequence=1 86.50.72.21 (talk) 11:19, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have gathered different sources to support my claim. If green light is given, I can change the information at the page and provide citations to all those sources. 86.50.72.21 (talk) 14:10, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]