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Fact Check on complex disease statistic[edit]

This article mentions, "for complex disorders specific genetic causes appear to only account for 10-30% of the disease incidence." I would like to see some sort of citation. For example, 40-60% of the risk for coronary artery disease is heritable, according to Swedish twin studies and GWAS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.12.50.110 (talk) 12:05, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Academic spam[edit]

In these diffs I cleared out a bunch of unsourced or self-sourced content hyping grants received etc. These diffs. This was not even close to encyclopedic content. Jytdog (talk) 17:45, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Primary sources[edit]

Here I cleared content based on recent-when-added primary sources. We should be building content giving the state of play in the field - which we get from book chapters and literature reviews -- not "hot news" based on recently published research papers which may never amount to anything. This is core to what we do here. Jytdog (talk) 17:46, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Explain how this statement "For complex disorders, specific genetic causes appear to account for only 10-30% of the disease incidence, but there has been no standard or systematic way to measure the influence of environmental exposures. Some studies into the interaction of genetic and environmental factors in the incidence of diabetes have demonstrated that "environment-wide association studies" (EWAS, or exposome-wide association studies) may be feasible.[15][16] However, it is not clear what data sets are most appropriate to represent the value of "E".[17]" is not based on primary sources only. I find your blind trust of secondary sources and only secondary sources highly contradictory to what the scientific world believes in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcalex286 (talk • contribs) 18:07, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Look what I found here WP:PRIMARYNOTBAD — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcalex286 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And check out this page https://wiki.alquds.edu/?query=Wikipedia:Identifying_and_using_primary_sources, read it carefully. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcalex286 (talk • contribs) 18:25, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And I just found out it's a wikipedia policy that GOOD REPUTABLE PRIMARY SOURCES can be used! unlike what you have been preaching. And this page is not about historical accounts, these studies all include solid peer-reviewed public data, anyone can look at them! WP:PRIMARY — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcalex286 (talk • contribs) 18:30, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am well aware of the policy regime around sourcing. You are not following WP:PRIMARY and people before you didn't follow it as well.

Additionally nothing is "new" in Wikipedia - articles have no datelines and in a few years the "new" study will be old. Read WP:RELTIME.

I will request other folks to review. You are spamming Wikipedia and edit warring to do so Jytdog (talk) 19:30, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

agree w/ Jytdog--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 19:43, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever, I was an idiot to think that Wikipedia holds any values in current world of medicine anyway. Enjoy your love for secondary sources. No scientists would ever consider them superior to primary sources. Oh and your "other folks" also don't mean anything in the scientific world. Bye — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcalex286 (talk • contribs) 19:53, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also I find your approach of deleting everything you do not like highly questionable and insulting. It is true that nothing is never new, and the edit can be simply removing "new" from the sentence. It is also ironic that you do not want to let actual experts on the topic to write anything about the topic (because I guarantee you they will also use primary sources, as that is how it has been done since the beginning of natural science). Based on your claims, the entire "exposome" page should be taken down as there are simply no substantial "secondary" or "tertiary" articles on this topic, because it is a new field!! I strongly disagree with the idea that Wikipedia should wait for a few more years before putting the knowledge in when they become textbook (And it is the scientists who write the textbook), people can always revise and make changes should any of the primary studies become obsolete or wrong in the process, just as how scientific world corrects itself over time. Before that happens, publications on peer-reviewed reputable journals is as good as it can possibly get, and entire fields of science build on top of these primary articles, not reviewing articles! Forcing the entire wikipedia to be a few years lagging behind is impractical and short-sighted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcalex286 (talk • contribs) 20:15, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Environmental factors[edit]

As this is what this article is about. New work does not indicate new concept. Article was created by someone using refs they wrote themselves... Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:01, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support merge of Exposome to Environmental factor; a post-genomic attempt to re-invent the wheel and pad some grant applications. Has anyone, ever, been fooled by such childish deception (or, should I say, grantsmanship)? Such a merge has the advantage that it cites modern peer-reviewed research which clearly support the rather obvious idea that the environment affects (modifies and causes) disease. On a more sober note ... can I suggest that Exposome should have a separate section, to which this page would redirect, as it is a term which has entered the lexicon of a notable subset of people. Perhaps Exposure science could be treated similarly, but that is perhaps a discussion for another place. Klbrain (talk) 00:44, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 19:20, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Undid Merge to Environmental factors[edit]

There have been a lot of recent development as well as global initiatives in this field. The stub in the section on Environmenal factors simply can't do the Exposome topic sufficient justice on that page, so I have added an original full-length article. Besides, Wikipedia has exposome pages in other languages e.g. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposome - why is an exception being introduced that potentially limits English readers?