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Is this a single?[edit]

There’s exactly one source stating this is a single, and do we know if it’s trust-worthy? Is this a single in the first place? Taylor or her team haven’t backed this up. Please let me know your thoughts on this. Doggy54321 (talk) 18:58, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah after researching their website, I found a page where you can “Log In”, meaning that random people can publish stuff. Also there is no other citation where it says Exile is a single. The source isnt pretty reliable according to WP:REPUTABLE, so I’m going to take the single part out. If this causes any dispute please leave a message on this talk page. Doggy54321 (talk) 19:11, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are completely incorrect. Random people cannot publish stuff on AllAccess, which is owned by Mediabase. Record labels provide them with information about radio dates. The login is people who work in the music industry to see more content. — Status (talk · contribs) 19:20, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And FYI, Taylor or her team don't need to acknowledge something for it to be a single. It's being sent to alternate radio, while Cardigan is being sent to mainstream radio. Just like how New Year's Day was sent to country radio (which her team has never acknowledged either). — Status (talk · contribs) 19:25, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is a single. Not every song an artist releases is promoted all over the world in every country in every format. Some songs have more low-key releases, such as being released to only one radio format like "Exile". There doesn't need to be a billion citations. Heartfox (talk) 18:48, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have to disagree with you. As per WP:SINGLE?, receiving radio release does not make a song a single. There seems to be a pattern on Swift’s albums articles to display songs as singles having them simply received air play. On ‘’reputation’’ it very much seemed like they were trying to make it have seven singles to “match” the previous albums’ single releases. There has to be a proper discussion regarding this matter. Simply having a radio release does not make a song a single, even if the radio station states so. — Artmanha (talk) 03:23, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sending her songs to radio with a proper release on All Access grants it single status. A single isn't limited to just being a digital and physical single. A single can be radio-only, and sent to just one format, because it is sent as a single? In fact, a promotional single seems to be something that is sold on its own but not serviced to radio, per her past promotional single releases: The Archer, Call It What You Want and State of Grace. Over at WP:SINGLE?, it states that "being played on radio" does not mean it is a single, which I agree, as radio stations can play album tracks if they feel like it. However, criterion 1 specifically states "Serviced to US radio with an official radio add date". These two are different. All Access shows that this song is being serviced to Triple A radio with an official radio add date, so how is it not a single? We have been doing this for years for many different singles. Nahnah4 (talk | contribs) 11:09, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Being released independently of an album makes a song a single (generally speaking unless its labelled specifically as a promotional release). In the US, one of the main ways this is done is through servicing to radio. Don't forget that Folklore is a unique situation because it was a surprise release so all of the singles will be released after the album has come out. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 11:17, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 25 May 2021[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 20:05, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Exile (Taylor Swift song) → Exile (song) – The only article for a song with this title. Tree Critter (talk) 15:15, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anarchyte (talk) 15:33, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:SONGDAB. 162 etc. (talk) 20:28, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support: it's the only "Exile" song with an article. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 20:46, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:SONGDAB unless others are notable. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:46, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support considering none of the other songs have their own article. I don't even know why this discussion was needed. -- Calidum 16:26, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Subjective tone of article[edit]

Paragraph two currently includes the following: "Swift's honeyed vocals and Vernon's deep baritone into a melancholic duet propelled by a plodding piano, swirling strings, and soaring harmonies. Upon release, "Exile" garnered widespread critical acclaim, with emphasis on the duo's vocal chemistry, the agonizing lyricism, rich instrumentals and bleak atmosphere."

This strikes me as overly subjective, and not suiting the more objective and descriptive desired tone for a wikipedia article. 109.78.124.2 (talk) 11:19, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]