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Hi, Helper201. The relevant rule reads "self-published media as seen on YouTube are often not acceptable sources". Maybe not. But the reconstruction video is not being cited as a source of information. The reconstruction video itself is being discussed and that discussion does refer to possible misinformation given in it. So, I don't agree with your recent "better source needed" tag. But no problem. Izzy (talk) 08:50, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Izzy. Thank you for bringing this up. I see what you mean. However, being this is just a video on YouTube, how can we verify this is actually the family's filmed reconstruction of Gharsalla's last movements? We could really do with the video being mentioned in a third-party source to verify this. For all people can tell clicking on the video it could be anyone's reconstruction, and not the family's or one mentioned by police. I understand now its intention is not as a source of information, but we still should provide a way people can verify the source is what it claims to be. Helper201 (talk) 14:51, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Helper201. I am 100% sure the video in question is the Gharsallah family's commissioned reconstruction and posted to YouTube by them. A link to it is given in the family FB page and the video is embedded at the head of a Worthing Herald article from 2019 (https://www.worthingherald.co.uk/news/people/watch-reconstruction-missing-worthing-woman-georgina-gharsallahs-last-known-movements-1347428). As an aside, it is professionally done and slick - I guess it must have cost someone a few thousand pounds to make. It has been claimed that the video contains significant elements of misinformation. But that is not my immediate concern because I have not cited it as a source of information. best wishes. Izzy (talk) 17:31, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Izzy, thanks for the reply. I would recommend we cite the Worthing Herald article either as well as or in place of the YouTube video, so others can verify for themselves this video is what it claims to be. If that's done, I'd have no problem with the better source needed tag being removed. All the best. Helper201 (talk) 18:14, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Helper201. I have replaced your tag with the Worthing Herald article as a reference. The woman in the afternoon video is wearing tan coloured, flat soled boots. Whereas in the morning video Georgina is wearing black, high heeled boots. So if the afternoon woman is Georgina then she must have changed footwear during the day. I guess that isn't impossible. But there are other discrepancies. Izzy (talk) 07:49, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Article contains false and misleading information[edit]
I have recently stumbled across live content presented by the Mother of Georgina Gharashallah on social media. She has stated on more than one occasion that a lot of information contained in this article is false and is quite distressed about it. I understand that information must reflect official sources but in cases where the Family members are specifically saying the information is wrong (i.e. how the Mother met the Father etc), then surely this overrides any sources. An official source can say anything (it doesn't mean it's true) and if someone is specifically saying "I never met my ex-husband in the way described in this article", how can we insist that they did ? That's obviously just one example but I have spoken to this woman on at least three occasions and she feels deeply frustrated by what is contained here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HuwWilson652 (talk • contribs) 15:12, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi HuwWilson652. The article states that Gassem and Andrea met while Gassem was a university student in Brighton. That is based on numerous credible media reports. That said, those reports could be incorrect. It can happen that when an item of incorrect information is repeated often enough then it becomes widely accepted as fact. In short, it becomes a "factoid". So, if you believe the article contains incorrect information then please correct it. my best wishes. Izzy (talk) 10:11, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Andreagharsallah. I have taken the liberty of reverting your recent edit because you didn't offer any explanation of why you were making it and some of your grammar seemed a little odd. To pick on your point relating to Georgina's knowledge of Arabic, the police are reported in reference 2 (a BBC item) as stating "Georgina .... speaks Arabic among friends". Are you quite sure the police were mistaken or misreported ? best wishes Izzy (talk) 07:47, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
