Talk:Chocolate

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The chocolate manufacturer market is dominated by only a few large corporations, such as Mars and Hershey, but the production of Cacao is a different story. The farming and production of cacao is 90% comprised of many small family farms, that are 2-5 hectares in size. These small farmers are the most vulnerable part of the chocolate supply chain, they face low wages, harsh working conditions, and even use child labor. The few corporations at the top of a billion-dollar industry control the market, and keep the prices of cacao low, and these small farmers do not see any of the massive amount of money generated by the industry.

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There is an interesting disparity between the production and the consumption of chocolate. Chocolate is consumed heavily in the global north, while cacao is produced in the global south.

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domestication

There is nothing here about the history of the development of the plant into something that produces a food. It seems that it was first developed in South America, but I don't have a good citation on this claim from a museum in new mexico. https://news.unm.edu/news/unm-archaeologist-to-discuss-chaco-canyon-chocolate-at-museum-lecture-series2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:618D:3A7E:5451:6D73 (talk) 15:16, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Unclear

"The shell is removed to produce cocoa nibs, which are then ground to cocoa mass." Which is ground up? The shell or the "nibs", which also needs clarifaction of what are "nibs". Nibs are the kernels? Then this should be stated in the first line. 194.193.192.4 (talk) 03:59, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

The nibs are what remains after the shells of roasted beans are removed. The sentence is already self-defining. Why ever would you think chocolate is made by grinding up the shells? That makes no sense. SpinningSpark 14:15, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Merger proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was Merge. Excutient^Talk 19:30, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

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I propose merging Health effects of chocolate into Chocolate. The content on "Health effects of chocolate", from my understanding, already appears on the "Chocolate" page and so a separate article is unnecessary. Content on the "Health effects of chocolate" page is not substantial in wordcount and could be merged with "Chocolate" without causing any problems with article-size. --Excutient^Talk 12:59, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

• Support merge as it would be easier to have all the content on one article. No need to have two articles with duplicated or similar content. Psychologist Guy (talk) 15:36, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
• Support as proposed. Zefr (talk) 15:42, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Semi-protected edit request on 14 February 2023

Change

"As of 2017, there is no high-quality evidence that dark chocolate affects blood pressure significantly or provides other health benefits.[39]"

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"While the positive health effects of chocolate can be a source of debate, preliminary evidence suggests there appear to be small but statistically significant beneficial effects to cardiovascular health.[39]"

Source: Contrary to the current claim, the originally cited source states there is small but significant blood pressure benefits. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6478304/). Katie.steck (talk) 02:34, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

The article does not say anything about "source of debate". What it does say under quality of evidence is The evidence is of moderate quality. We were unable to identify any randomised controlled trials that tested the effect of long‐term daily use of cocoa products on blood pressure, and there were no trials that measured the health consequences of high blood pressure, such as heart attacks or strokes. Statistically significant is not the same as medically significant. As the source says, such evidence is currently lacking. SpinningSpark 13:56, 14 February 2023 (UTC)