Talk:Chiang Kai-shek

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Atrocities comitted by Chiang Kai Shek's Governement[edit]

There is a remarkable lack of mention of the number of people massacred at the hands of his government. There is lots of useful sourced info in this page:

Some of this info could be added to the KMT page and the History of China page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:10, 8 May 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Blaming Chiang for the deaths of the civilians caught in the floods or in the conscription campaigns or other KMT actions between 1937 and 1945 during the resistance against the Japanese is inaccurate at best or deliberately hypocritical at best. Chiang ordered the levees breeched because Japanese troops had defeated the Chinese forces in the campaigns from Shanghai to Nanjing in 1937 and some means had to be found to keep them from driving into the last areas under KMT rule. Chiang's actions were no different than that of the Dutch when they flooded the lands around their cities in a last-ditch act to stop the Spanish in the Eighty Years War or Louis XIV later. The Belgians did something similar to slow the Germans in 1914-1915. There are other examples in world history. Those people died because of Japanese aggression, just as surely as the innocents at Nanjing in 1937 or the millions of people who were murdered, died from disease or starvation in the areas under Japanese occupation. It is one thing to murder millions of people during the "Great Leap Forward" or the Mao's revolution and blame Chiang for deaths directly related to Japanese operations. (talk) 19:35, 25 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Rudolph Rummel is a historian with considerable personal political biases, just like Grover Furr. He also denies human-induced climate change, which is a universally accepted truth by modern scientists, and supports NATO interventions globally. I wouldn’t uphold his numbers as a universal truth by citing them on Wikipedia. LeonChrisfield (talk) 02:45, 5 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reverted the recent pagemove[edit]

I have reverted the recent page move, as this shows that Chiang Kai-Shek is still the predominant English language name in reliable sources, even down to the current day. Per WP:UCN, we should favor the most commonly used name. Furthermore, the name it was moved to was the third most commonly used name, even Jiang Jieshi was much more common than Jiang Zhongzheng (though none, still, as common as Chiang Kai-Shek). --Jayron32 13:13, 27 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks. I just came to find out why Chiang Kai-Shek had been changed to something I'd never heard of, and you've changed it back. good. -Roxy the dog 13:59, 27 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]