Talk:Charlotte, North Carolina

Seaboard Air Line Railroad

Editor Washuotaku has now removed the sentence "Until 1958, the Seaboard Air Line Railroad operated a daily passenger train from its own station to Wilmington", twice, from the Transportation section. He has reverted the addition of this line when it was added by two different editors (I am one of them). It is sourced to two sources. I see no reason why it should be removed. Looking to discuss this removal here. Wes sideman (talk) 16:34, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

This has been discussed, see above, but the reason it was removed is because it does not belong there. There is an existing article for the Seaboard station and another for the current Amtrak station; both are ideal locations to discuss historic intercity rail transportation. The section in question, Transportation, identify all the current transportation options available in Charlotte and at no time delves into the history of mass transit, roads, or air travel in the city, they also have their respective articles, so why have an exception for Intercity rail? --WashuOtaku (talk) 16:47, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

I agree with @Dogru144: that it was an arbitrary deletion. His arguments in the above discussion are sound. My opinion on your arguments is that you're basically saying "I don't like it being here". Other editors may disagree. I suggest asking for a fourth or fifth opinion if you're still looking to delete that line. I'm a neutral third opinion and I see no valid reason to delete Dogru144's addition. Wes sideman (talk) 16:51, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

@Dogru144, Washuotaku, and Wes sideman: I agree with Washuotaku that this content seems out of place in the Transportation section. If as Dogru144 says, it was important to the history of the city, then it does belong in this article in addition to the others that Washuotaku, but in the History section. That would be a good place to add more context about the impact of railroads on the city's development, if appropriate. Would anyone object to moving this text to the History section and perhaps expanding it? -- Beland (talk) 18:50, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

I see no problems with that solution. Wes sideman (talk) 11:24, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Looks like that's been done. I added the opening date of the station for context. More context is welcome and encouraged. -- Beland (talk) 17:31, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Rename to `Charlotte`

Charlotte already redirects here. Might as well rename the article to reflect. If anyone disagrees, then maybe the redirect should be replaced with a disambiguation page? Dmarquard (talk) 05:57, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

I am not opposed to it, it just odd that Charlotte (disambiguation) is not using it is all. --WashuOtaku (talk) 12:44, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

I am all for the name change. There is a list here that might be useful. Wes sideman (talk) 11:20, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

After some research, I found this: WP:USPLACE. It appears you will not be able to make this change with the policy being what it is - someone (or a group of editors) decided that we're going to use the AP Stylebook when making the determination as to whether to include the state name or not. I believe you would have to get that policy changed through consensus before changing this article's name. For what it's worth, I'm for changing that policy too. I don't know why we're bound to the AP Stylebook; it seems rather arbitrary. Wes sideman (talk) 11:28, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Shooting

Hi @Washuotaku thanks for the explanation in the edit summary but I disagree in this particular instance because the shooting made national headlines. S0091 (talk) 21:26, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

There have been several shootings that have made national headlines from Charlotte, including: 2019 University of North Carolina at Charlotte shooting, Killing of Jonathan Ferrell, Killing of Keith Lamont Scott, and even more through the article and pages on List of mass shootings in the United States. All these are not on the Charlotte city article and for good reason, they typically have their own wiki article; and if they are not as notable then added to the mass shootings list pages. I do not believe this is the correct venue and should considering creating a page or adding it to the list page. --WashuOtaku (talk) 21:57, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

@Washuotaku Thanks for pointing me to the lists along with other articles. After reviewing the sources from the draft, this indeed was not a historic event for Charlotte (i.e. largest mass murder, etc.) Also, it is listed at List of mass shootings in the United States in 2020 so I will remove the content from here and update the content and redirect there instead. S0091 (talk) 19:24, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

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Queen City News

Shouldn't the Media Section include mention of Charlotte's major TV station, the Queen City News? It is a Fox affiliate television station jointly owned by Nexstar Media and a South Carolina affiliate TV station. Can anyone add this to the article? Stevenmitchell (talk) 11:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

It already does, that is WJZY. The list does not include their news monikers, just the station call letters and affiliations. --WashuOtaku (talk) 13:22, 28 January 2024 (UTC)