Talk:Brendan Burke

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Prose[edit]

This was mentioned on the AfD and I find I agree with it. Several of the way the statements were written ("Jane Doe of Newspaper said...") comes off as being an odd "review" of the subject, especially when following one after another. He isn't a piece of media that recieved a review or a reception, so it shouldn't read like that either. Therefore, I reworked several of these into more encyclopedic prose while maintaining the sources. However, the last sentence of the article still has me at odds. It closes out the article decently, but in itself it is a statement highlighting the level of importance of the subject to the issue of homophobia in hockey and NOT his death. It would be more appropriate, I feel, in the paragraph discussing the impact of Burke's coming out instead. This may mean that the sentence or paragraph be tweaked to make it fit in appropriately and organically. Any suggestions? Feel free to be bold!Luminum (talk) 09:27, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Birthdate[edit]

Removed December 8, 1988 as birth date, as the reference link (ESPN) does not state this. The ESPN article on states "in December 1988". If anyone can find a reliable reference, please add.  Guy M | Talk  13:14, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Restored birthdate of "December 8" which had been added by his college roommate and which I can confirm as a family friend. This birthdate also appears in a story by Lisa Olson entitled Brian Burke: A Father's Love Story published on February 15, 2010 quoting his father as follows: "Born on December 8, 1988, eight pounds, eight ounces. Eight is a lucky number for people of Chinese descent," Burke said, his face aglow. "He was born with a lot of lucky signs around him. Just a magnetic personality even as a kid." Centpacrr (talk) 14:24, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure you already know (with 6000+ edit since 2006) that family, friends and roommates are not "reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy" (See: WP:SOURCES). The fanhouse reference should work thought. Good job, I couldn't find any source for the birth date.  Guy M | Talk  12:04, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline of coming out to team and ESPN story[edit]

The timeline in the second paragraph of the Coming out and advocacy section seems to be confused.

If I'm reading source 12 correctly, Burke came out to Pat Cannone after Miami’s regional final victory in Minneapolis, which would have been in March 2009. Then Burke would have gradually come out to the rest of the team.

The ESPN article seemed to be happening in November and December 2009.

Can someone clear this up?

Msramming (talk) 04:51, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article conflict[edit]

In this article, in the section "Death and Legacy", it states in the 4th paragraph, "Sopel honored Brendan Burke by using his day with the Stanley Cup to display it in the Chicago Gay Pride Parade."

However, in the article for the Stanley Cup, the very last paragraph of the article talks about the same event, except it says "According to Sopel, it was not considered his personal day with the Cup."

The two articles say two different things about the same event that completely contradict each other. Obviously they can't both be true, yet they both have source citations. Evidently it would appear that one of these two sources is incorrect. Can someone help out with some fact checking to decide which source is the more reliable one, and remove the statement which conflicts it? Jade Phoenix Pence (talk) 19:51, 19 May 2014 (UTC)Jade Phoenix Pence[reply]

Both articles cite sources, yet does the information in each article actually correspond to what the respective sources say? Might there be a discrepancy between one of the articles and its source, rather than a discrepancy between the sources?--Skeezix1000 (talk) 18:39, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The citation in this article seems to have a dead link, but I found the article elsewhere, and it says (in part): "Recently traded Blackhawks defenseman Brent Sopel was looking for a way to pay tribute to his friend, Toronto Maple Leafs general manager Brian Burke and Burke's late son, Brendan. Not long after Chicago won the Stanley Cup last month, Sopel knew exactly how he planned to spend his day with the 35-pound, 3-foot-high polished silver trophy that arrives with its own white-gloved handler."

The Stanley Cup article, on the other hand, relies on a tweet (!), the link to which is dead and Sopel no longer seems to have an active Twitter account.

Given these circumstances, unless someone can find another reliable source, I would delete the "According to Sopel, it was not considered his personal day with the Cup" sentence in the Stanley Cup article. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 19:11, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. This is a good illustration as to why we should always be archiving the web sources we use in article citations, and including the archival link in the cite. Webcitation is our friend. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 19:11, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sentence in question deleted over at Stanley Cup. Thank you, Jade, for identifying the problem. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 15:18, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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