Talk:Batman

Main image: should the Batman Hush image be removed? Per WP:FREER

According to WP:FREER, fair-use images should only be used when there is no free equivalent or the subject cannot be illustrated using a creative commons/public domain source. I bring this up because the header image, File:Batman Infobox.jpg, is a fair-use image, but Wikimedia Commons has multiple official images of Batman in the public domain, such as File:Adam West as Batman.jpg and File:Adam West as Batman in TV series.JPG. So to me it seems like the fair-use image is absolutely replaceable since there are free alternatives that accurately illustrate the character. I believe we should remove File:Batman Infobox.jpg per the policy and replace it with, say, File:Adam West as Batman.jpg. Di (they-them) (talk) 01:07, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• The main topic of the article is the comic books version of Batman / Bruce Wayne, so using an image of the West iteration of the character would be confusing and wrong in my opinion.--Redjedi23 (talk) 23:53, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

@Redjedi23: The page discusses all versions of the character, including the comic book version. They are all the same character. Di (they-them) (talk) 02:05, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

No, because this is about the comic book character, not the Adam West incarnation. JOEBRO⁶⁴ 02:10, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

@TheJoebro64: They are the same character. The Adam West incarnation is still Batman, which is the subject of the article. Di (they-them) (talk) 02:24, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Batman

Comic 105.112.178.126 (talk) 14:42, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Batman is not a superhero as he does not have superpowers

Superhero explicitly defines a superhero as a hero having superpowers, and Superpower (ability) explicitly defines themselves as fictional superhuman abilities, superhuman abilities further being defines as something that exceeds what naturally can be found in humans. Batman does not possess any superpowers as intellect, hand-to-hand combat, and wealth are not fictional superhuman abilities, as humans do possess one, combination, or all of them. Batman should be simply referred to as a hero. Mechanical Keyboarder (talk) 04:50, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Pure nonsense, and a superhero is not defined by having superpowers. As the main article on superhero explains: "Some superheroes (for example, Batman and Iron Man) derive their status from advanced technology they create and use". Basically, several superheroes are defined by their high-tech gadgets, weaponry, or armor. Steel has been able to emulate Superman's powers through purely technological means, as he is depicted as a skilled engineer and inventor. Green Arrow and Hawkeye typically have no inherent powers, but they are depicted as highly skilled archers, martial artists, and users of high-tech "trick arrows" (including explosives, sonic weapons, etc). Mockingbird used to have no powers at all beyond her martial-arts skills. Her current "enhanced" status has slowed her aging and further increased her physical strength and agility (which were already advanced), without granting her additional powers. Some so-called "street-level" superheroes, like Daredevil, have no powers beyond their enhanced senses of hearing, smell, or touch. Dimadick (talk) 07:56, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

All of them should be simply referred to as heroes/heroines then. It's inconsistent for wikipedia articles to define certain terms and articles to not follow them.Mechanical Keyboarder (talk) 19:33, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

First, Batman is widely labeled by reliable sources as a superhero, so it would be improper for Wikipedia to deny that label. As for defining a superhero, the Wikipedia article does not source the definition, and definitions in general are not immutable. Rather, that Wikipedia article should have a "Definition" section that focuses on this matter. I easily found the book What is a Superhero? that literally covers this current matter here and can be referenced to flesh out such a section. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 20:14, 1 December 2022 (UTC)