Talk:Barbara Shermund

A fact from Barbara Shermund appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 5 April 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Barbara Shermund illustrated two early New Yorker covers (second shown) and, 25 years later, was one of the first women to join the National Cartoonists Society?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Rlink2 (talk) 13:45, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The New Yorker 3 Oct 1925

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... that Barbara Shermund created covers for the New Yorker (Oct 3, pictured) in its first year and became a regular cartoon contributor? Source: Oct 3 cover and "For about two decades, until the 1940s..."
- ALT1: ... that Barbara Shermund, who created this New Yorker cover, was one of the first women to join the National Cartoonists Society 25 years later? Source: Oct 3 cover
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dennis Swanson
- Comment: Includes New author from Women in Red editathon in Cambridge. If you can see an improvement then just edit.

Created by Lamona (talk) and Mojag (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 11:56, 23 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Article is new and long enough - although maybe just over the line from being a stub. I am unsure about the fair use image in the infobox - it may be fine ~~but I think the caption needs to be changed at least. The article needs a fair bit of copyediting for readability and grammar (comma splices, for example, are present).~~ The image looks to be fine and I think the first hook is acceptable and reasonably interesting. ~~This should be fine following some work with the text in the article.~~ This is my first review so please be patient and I would appreciate a second opinion. Vladimir.copic (talk) 05:51, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Vladimir.copic: Thanks for the review, I realise it is your first. You say "just" over the line but the required text in 1500 characters and the article has 2,800.. just? You are unsure about the image, thats fine, it is OK you can click on it and the license is explained, but I cannot work out how you want the caption - why not change it? "Comma Splices"? interesting. No idea what these are but they are not included in the DYK criteria. This is someone's first article. Please feel free to demonstrate the improvements (hopefully after you have ticked it) - DYK articles are not perfect - they are new and works in progress. Hope that helps. Victuallers (talk) 08:16, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies - as I said before this is my first time. I was mistakenly under the impression I had to give a review of the actual article. I was referring to the image in the info box (sourced from another wiki, is this fair use justified etc). Other than questions I have about that (maybe a more DYKer can check this isn't an issue) this seems fine. I have a preference for ALT1 but written as: ... that Barbara Shermund, who created this New Yorker cover, was one of the first women to join the National Cartoonists Society?

(Also a comma splice is the joining of two independent clauses with a comma eg Shermund wrote her own captions under her cartoons, her creations were satirical and often with a feminist and poignant tone.) Vladimir.copic (talk) 10:43, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]