Talk:2023–2024 Manipur violence

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 February 2024

<Cause of incident:Abuse of power> Sappling grows (talk) 06:37, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Kautilya3 (talk) 14:05, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 March 2024

Before 3rd of may there was already violence taken place in kuki dominated areas of Churachandpur where Meitei temples were vandalised https://www.indiatodayne.in/manipur/story/manipur-unrest-in-churachandpur-as-protests-turn-violent-550326-2023-04-28 . In the due course of the violence several meitei innocent civilians have been killed by the Kuki Militants https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/three-killed-in-fresh-violence-in-manipur/article67161087.ece . Two meitei students were killed by the kuki militants namely Linthoingambi and Hemanjit https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/cbi-arrests-4-people-in-connection-with-killing-of-two-manipuri-youths/articleshow/104091228.cms , the public came to know this when the images of their murder went viral in social media on September 2023. As of now their bodies have not been recovered. The Manipur Government announced that this is an external aggression as there are several reports of involvement of Myanmar rebel group PDF siding with the kuki militants https://www.newindianexpress.com/opinions/2023/Aug/06/manipur-myanmar-binary-blame-junta-not-its-victims-2602636.html . The Central Government also stated in the parliament that the root cause of the violence is due to illegal immigration of Kukis from Myanmar https://frontline.thehindu.com/the-nation/centre-blaming-myanmar-migrants-for-manipur-violence-is-dangerous/article67212603.ece as a reult the Government Of India has now banned the free movement regime with Myanmar https://www.livemint.com/news/india-calls-for-immediate-suspension-of-free-movement-regime-with-myanmar-amit-shah-11707376441979.html , also the Union Govt. has confirmed border fencing along the entire 1643km long Indo-Myanmar border https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/modi-govt-decides-to-construct-fence-along-1643-km-indo-myanmar-border-home-minister-amit-shah/articleshow/107463621.cm . EditorNex (talk) 19:52, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Kautilya3 (talk) 01:58, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

There is no mention of "Meitei temples" in the first source. This article is about the "ethnic violence", as mentioned in the lead sentence. The other events only form the background, and are covered in the "Background" section as needed per WP:DUE. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 12:39, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Illegal immigrants

I was curious about this edit of Iskandar323, which introduced this passage under the summary of "copyediting".

In 2023, the state government in Manipur began efforts to remove what it claimed where illegal immigrants from settlements in reserve forest areas. Officials stated that illegal immigrants from Myanmar had been settling in Manipur since the 1970s.

References

In a later edit, they deleted the scratched out phrase.

The first sentence apparently comes from this statement in the source:

But Meiteis say that the protest against ST status is just a facade. The Kukis are unnerved by the state government's drive to remove illegal immigrants from settlements in reserve forest areas.

The second sentence from these statements in the source:

"Kukis are migrating illegally from across the Myanmar border and occupying forest land in Manipur. Recently, the Manipur government started an eviction drive to clear illegal settlements in reserve forest areas. The drive was in all areas, including those inhabited by Meiteis and Muslims, but only the Kukis are protesting," says Chand Meetei Pocshangbam of the All Meitei Council.

"Meiteis are demanding an NRC because of the sudden population spike in the last two decades in areas bordering Myanmar. Illegal immigrants from Myanmar have been settling in Manipur since 1970s but the movement has intensified now," he says.

Apparently, "Chand Meetei Pochshangbam of the All Meitei Council" has turned into "officials", and his claims climbed out of the quote marks. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:55, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

If you check the diff, I didn't introduce the material, but merely moved it from one section to another. Iskandar323 (talk) 15:20, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Here is the block of edits that you made. This content wasn't present before your edits. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Change it as you see fit. Iskandar323 (talk) 17:14, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Background section on refugees

I have deleted from the mainspace a huge section on refugees from Myanmar, which is growing and growing. Please note that material in the background sections has to be validated by sources that connect it to the present topic. You can't simply add whatever you personally think is relevant. That would be considered WP:OR. Also, all the material concerning Mizoram should be deleted. Pinging Chaipau for his input.

The renewed outbreak of civil war in Myanmar has caused an influx of refugees in the states of Manipur and Mizoram. Dozens of illegal immigrants, including ex-security, forces reportedly entered Manipur. In July 2023, there were an estimated 50,000 refugees who had fled into India.

While the Myanmar refugees are given familial treatment with compassion to take shelter by the state government of Mizoram, the Manipur government's view on the matter is somewhat divergent. Dominant Zo-Kuki demographic of Manipur's Churachandpur district which borders the state of Mizoram, and the dominant Mizos have strong ethnic relation with each other and also with Kukis of Myanmar. While Chief Minister Zoramthanga of Mizoram, under his governance, shows a sense of compassion towards refugees including ex-forces of Myanmar, at least some Zo-Kuki portion in Manipur are not happy with the attitude of Manipur government, under the leadership of Chief Minister N Biren Singh, towards them who are, if not together, in the proximity of Myanmar immigrants.

In addition to the influx, drug trafficking, spillover of the war and the Myanmar junta's use of aerial bombing and napalm has destabilized the border region. In January 2023, the Myanmar Air Force carried out airstrikes targeting the Myanmar-based Chin National Army's headquarters, near the India-Myanmar border. The air attacks violated Indian airspace and soil, according to local Mizo organizations and the international research and advocacy organization Fortify Rights. India expressed its concern to the junta about its military actions near its sensitive northeastern region in the wake of massive exodus of refugees into India. Minister of Home Affairs Amit Shah stated that the influx of Kuki people from Myanmar created insecurity amongst the Meitei people of Manipur and triggered the violence. According to ground reports, many refugees also brought arms with them and instigated drug turf wars.

References

-- Kautilya3 (talk) 23:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

I agree with the paring down by @Kautilya3. Immigration as a contributing factor has emerged ex post facto, after the fact, and should not be placed in the background section. Chaipau (talk) 04:27, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 April 2024

Addition of Aigejang Shooting to the See Also section. Minmarion (talk) 17:20, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

 On hold pending whether the page Aigejang Shooting passes review by new page patrollers or not. If so, will add. —Sirdog (talk) 03:38, 21 April 2024 (UTC)