Talk:1850 Atlantic hurricane season

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Merge?[edit]

I realize this was just created, but I feel it should be addressed sooner rather than later. I personally don't think the pre-HURDAT seasons should have individual articles, especially when there were only a few storms such as this year. The information is very unreliable and speculative, and therefore I believe it should be merged with 1840–49 Atlantic hurricane seasons (and then retitle it). --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 12:35, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine by me. I think we touched on this before without coming to a conclusion - it's going to be an 'odd one out' either way. By all means, please go ahead. 14GTR (talk) 14:26, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'd go for the merge. The storm sections are rather small, and much of the article is in the lead, basically talking about how 1850 falls out of the range of HURDAT and what HURDAT is. I'd put it back with that decadal article. TheAustinMan^{(Talk·Works)} 21:04, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:08, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

New version completed... assessment and comments welcome. – Juliancolton | ^Talk 18:25, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

About the source[edit]

Just a suggestion: There's five sources' author are David McWilliams Ludlum, so I feel maybe notes 4, 6, 10, 19 and 33 should clearify they're stand for Ludlum, David McWilliams (1963). Early American hurricanes, 1492–1870. American Meteorological Society.(right?)--Jarodalien (talk) 00:06, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't follow... – Juliancolton | ^Talk 01:52, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, my English is not very well. I mean notes 4, 6, 10, 19 and 33 are all "Ludlum, p.xx", I guess they all mean Ludlum, David McWilliams (1963). Early American hurricanes, 1492–1870. American Meteorological Society., page xx. Meantime, they're 4 other sources:

Ludlum, David M. "The September Storm of 1850 - Sept. 8" (PDF). Historical Hurricane Information Tool. Florida State University. Retrieved July 25, 2014.
Ludlum, David M. "The July Storm of 1850 - Jul. 18". Historical Hurricane Information Tool. Florida State University. {{cite web}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Missing or empty |url= (help)
Ludlum, David M. "Severe Storm at Apalachicola - August 1850 - Pt 1" (PDF). Historical Hurricane Information Tool. Florida State University. Retrieved July 23, 2014.
Ludlum, David M. "Severe Storm at Apalachicola - August 1850 - Pt 2" (PDF). Historical Hurricane Information Tool. Florida State University. Retrieved July 23, 2014.

They all had same author with Ludlum, David McWilliams (1963). Early American hurricanes, 1492–1870. American Meteorological Society., or least had same last name. So I think is the best to clearify notes 4, 6, 10, 19 and 33 is meant for which one, which "Ludlum".

One more thing, Ludlum, David M. "The July Storm of 1850 - Jul. 18". Historical Hurricane Information Tool. Florida State University. {{cite web}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Missing or empty |url= (help) and some other sources' url were removed already (guess is becuase 404), so should they still using cite web?--Jarodalien (talk) 06:38, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see what you mean. I don't think it's a huge issue but you do have a point, so I've changed "Ludlum, p. x" to "Ludlum (1963), p. x" in the offending citations. As for the webpages: the urls weren't removed, but simply replaced with working versions, so all the other info should be the same, I think. Thanks for the suggestions. – Juliancolton | ^Talk 15:03, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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