Talk:.380 ACP

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Change pic?[edit]

Suggest we change the pic from the Hi-Point to one of the actual cartridge. Anyone have one?

I removed the Yugoslavian 9mm short cartridge pic b/c there must be an issue in what they consider such versus what non-Former Warsaw Pact nations describe as such; the pics were 9x18mm Makarov rounds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:18, 6 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ironically, the text says 'not to be confused with the .38 ACP', but the photo is clearly of a 23mm round. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:38, 13 May 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

US Bias[edit]

There is a very heavy US bias in the popular weapons section, mentioning concealed carry without mentioning the US is pretty poor form. I know it is linked to the concealed carry page but is the US the only place in the world with concealed carry? Also listing US specific weapon availability but no mention of other countries. C'mon editors this isn't US Wikipedia it's English language Wikipedia, end the bias. (talk) 20:00, 14 December 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

380 acp penetration[edit]

I have watched a lot of 380 acp ballistic gelatin tests on youtube. Not any hollow point cartridge is able to get close to the penetration of a FMJ. In fact, many knowledgeable shooters use FMJ ammo in a 380 because they do not trust a hollow point to penetrate deep enough if they hit the attacker in the arm first or have to shoot him in the hip. If an attacker is wearing a protective vest you would be for forced to shoot him in the hip with any handgun. It is not uncommon foe criminals to wear a vest. Criminals often steal vests from a gun shop.

Penetration of modern pistol ammo is tested by International Wound Ballistics Association (IWBA)protocol. Not by penetration in buckets of water. IWBA protocol is 4 layers of heavy denim and ballistic gelatin. There are a variety of ways to make ballistic gelatin. Gelatin is tested for uniformity by the penetration of a BB at 800 fps. The BB should penetrate the gelatin 3.5". — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:08, 10 April 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]